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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The Manning situation is absurd. He should have been taken to trial for releasing classified information, easily convicted and sentenced. The lack of real harm from the leaked documents should have been a mitigating factor in his sentencing. Justice would have been served and the law upheld. There is absolutely no reason to blatantly violate both the constitution and the UCMJ by holding him so long. Its completely insane to undermine our entire legal system to hold someone prisoner when you have him nailed on an open and shut case that will land him in prison anyway.
    The guy that shot at the White House a couple weeks ago didn't kill anyone and no one was ever in danger of being killed, or even injured.

    Is he any less guilty of making an attempt on the president's life?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    was he a traitor who exposed military secrets to the detriment of our nation

    or

    was he a patriot who exposed wrong doing, conducted in our name, which was cloaked with security classifications

    we may know his motivations after the article 32 hearing in a couple of weeks. incarcerate the traitor. praise the whistleblower
    And what wrong doing did Pvt Manning "expose"? Specifically?

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    was he a traitor who exposed military secrets to the detriment of our nation

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    was he a patriot who exposed wrong doing, conducted in our name, which was cloaked with security classifications

    we may know his motivations after the article 32 hearing in a couple of weeks.
    He broke the law and put lives in danger. Even if no one was killed, he's guilty of treason. Was Benedict Arnold any less of a traitor, because the Colonials won the war?

    incarcerate the traitor. praise the whistleblower
    But...but...but...the law...

    Was the occutard shooter at the White House trying to murder the president, or protect the country from more of his damaging policies?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Several thoughts:

    1) His lawyer claims? So it is not fact, just the claim of some one trying to make a case

    2) Even if true, "no real damage to national security" is not the same thing as "no damage".

    3) None of that changes the fact he broke the law. A drunk driver does not have to do damage to be guilty of drunk driving.

    4) He is still, thankfully, never going to ever be free again in his life. I almost regret that they no longer make big rocks into little rocks at Leavenworth.
    I agree. It is one thing if someone comes forward to bring light on a lawor leaders are breaking, and quite another to simply leak a ton of information. And if he really believes what he did was right, he should do it in the open and accept the consequences of breaking the law. In any case, he did break the alw.

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    was he a traitor who exposed military secrets to the detriment of our nation

    or

    was he a patriot who exposed wrong doing, conducted in our name, which was cloaked with security classifications

    we may know his motivations after the article 32 hearing in a couple of weeks. incarcerate the traitor. praise the whistleblower
    Shoot the bastard and send a message:

    "Treason is not tolerated."

    Don't give a **** what his motives were, he released classified data, to a foreign entity. Whistle blowers contact media organizations and the appropriate legal entities.
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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    praise the whistleblower
    There's ways to legally "whistleblow". He didn't follow them. He's not a whisteblower in any sense that matters in this case.

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Was the occutard shooter at the White House
    There was no "occutard" shooter at the white house, any more than there was a "Teatard" shooter of gabby giffords. ****ing ridiculous.

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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    And what wrong doing did Pvt Manning "expose"? Specifically?
    Sure. He exposed the fact that US soldiers were committing war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. (Cables Reveal 2006 Summary Execution of Civilian Family in Iraq -- News from Antiwar.com) (New Statesman - One year in jail, Bradley Manning is a hero) Also that the US was ignoring torture (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...military-leaks).

    Some high-up people are even supporting him (US Intelligence Veteran Defends Bradley Manning And WikiLeaks - OpEd) (WH forces P.J. Crowley to resign for condemning abuse of Manning - WikiLeaks - Salon.com).

    The US government should be on trial for having Bradley Manning in solitary confinement for approximately two years. Solitary confinement amounts to torture (Prolonged solitary confinement is torture, says expert | United Nations Radio) (http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/fil...%20Prisons.pdf) (Solitary Confinement: The Invisible Torture | Wired Science | Wired.com).


    I find it quite disturbing that so many people are angry that he released files that showed the horrid things that were going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should be happy that these things have been revealed that so we can correct them rather than keep them in the darkness.
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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    There's ways to legally "whistleblow". He didn't follow them. He's not a whisteblower in any sense that matters in this case.
    interesting perspective
    what was the proper and specific method for someone in the military to blow the whistle about committed atrocities and violations of international conduct
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    Re: Bradley Manning lawyer: White House review found 'leak' did no real damage

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    interesting perspective
    what was the proper and specific method for someone in the military to blow the whistle about committed atrocities and violations of international conduct
    He can follow the steps laid out in the Military Whistleblower Protection Act, which he would've recieved training on as a DOD employee.

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