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Iran students storm UK Embassy

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Tehran, Iran (CNN) -- Iranian students stormed the British embassy in Tehran Tuesday, breaking down the door, throwing around papers and replacing the British flag with an Iranian one.

Iran's Press TV reported that police had the incident under control, but Britain's Foreign Office called the situation "fluid" and said "details are still emerging."
\'There has been a incursion by a significant number of demonstrators into our Embassy premises, including vandalism to our property," the Foreign Office said. "We are outraged by this. It is utterly unacceptable and we condemn it."

The Foreign Office added that "under international law, including the Vienna Convention, the Iranian Government have a clear duty to protect diplomats and Embassies in their country and we expect them to act urgently to bring the situation under control and ensure the safety of our staff and security of our property."
The incursion happened during a protest demanding that the British ambassador be sent home immediately.

A crowd of about 1,000 people gathered near the embassy for the anti-British demonstration, and had been peaceful before some participants storming the building. A CNN producer on the scene also saw protesting students throwing stones at the embassy's windows.

The Iranian Parliament voted Sunday to expel the ambassador and reduce diplomatic relations with the United Kingdom in retaliation for newly-imposed Western sanctions, according to Iran's IRNA news agency. The vote must go to the Guardian Council for approval.


The Foreign Office called the Iranian Parliament's vote Sunday "regrettable."

Iranian protest leads to embassy incursion - CNN.com

The Iranian security forces are currently working to secure the Embassy back from the protestors, but it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to suggest that someone in the Iranian government encouraged this incident to occur and at the very least failed to protect the embassy in accordance with international law.

I would be equally disgusted if the Iranian embassy was over run in London by British students, Diplomats, Embassy Staff and Embassies are not fair game in my honest opinion.
 
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I wonder in how many instances was the removal of the embassy the precursor to a war.
 
Iranian students storm British embassy in Tehran, take 6 hostages

This definitely won't help tensions with Iran. Could this be the trigger to further deterioration between Iran and the West?

TEHRAN: Dozens of hard-line Iranian students stormed the British embassy in Tehran on Tuesday, bringing down the Union Jack flag and throwing documents from windows in scenes reminiscent of the anger against Western powers after the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

The mob moved into the diplomatic compound two days after Iran's parliament approved a bill that reduces diplomatic relations with Britain following London's support of recently upgraded Western sanctions on Tehran over its disputed nuclear program.

The protesters broke through after clashing with anti-riot police and chanting for its takeover. "Death to England,'' some cried in the first significant assault of a foreign diplomatic area in Iran in years.

There was no immediate word on casualties or how many embassy employees were inside at the time of the assault, although it occurred after business hours had ended. More protesters poured into the compound as police tried to clear the site.

Smoke rose from some areas of the embassy grounds and the British flag was replaced with a banner in the name of 7th century Shiite saint, Imam Hussein.

The occupier called for the closure of the embassy calling it a "spy den" the same phrase used after militants stormed the US embassy in Tehran in 1979 and held 52 hostages for 444 days. Washington and Tehran have no diplomatic relations since then.

Iranian students storm British embassy in Tehran, take 6 hostages - The Times of India
 
I wonder in how many instances was the removal of the embassy the precursor to a war.

Well there's no actual way Iran can wage war on the UK or America so it's the ball is firmly in their court.
 
Well there's no actual way Iran can wage war on the UK or America so it's the ball is firmly in their court.

There's plenty of ways, a huge portion of the American military is still in Iraq and Afghanistan, plus there's always economic warfare by messing with the oil supply, their own or someone else's, and there's always the more unconventional method using some violent groups which Iran has influence over. I don't really think its a precursor to open war, but Iran is capable of doing some damage if they so chose.
 
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not to mention a little organization called Hezbollah.

that being said, i would like to emphasize that There Is Nothing To See Here. the Iranian Government Is Made Up Of Civilized, Rational Actors, And Ergo Would Of Course Never Countenance Or Encourage This Kind Of Assault By Deniable Elements. Ergo, These People Can Be Trusted Not To Follow Through On Their Threats To Nuke Israel. Move Along, Move Along, Nothing To See Here.
 
Well there's no actual way Iran can wage war on the UK or America so it's the ball is firmly in their court.

There are ways. Probably unsuccessful, but they do exist.
 
this is a violation of international law and there has to be a stong response, the time for writing strong worded letters as past. Lets start imposing stronger sanctions on them and start targeting key military targets like we did to Iraq in the 90's. Lets send them back to the dark ages and then we will see how strong the will of the people is then. Time of a bit of old fashioned gun boat dimplocay!
 
not to mention a little organization called Hezbollah.

that being said, i would like to emphasize that There Is Nothing To See Here. the Iranian Government Is Made Up Of Civilized, Rational Actors, And Ergo Would Of Course Never Countenance Or Encourage This Kind Of Assault By Deniable Elements. Ergo, These People Can Be Trusted Not To Follow Through On Their Threats To Nuke Israel. Move Along, Move Along, Nothing To See Here.

What would you do cpwill?
 
On a side note, Obama condemned the storming of the "English" embassy in Tehran.

Can you imagine the uproar if Rick Perry or Herman Cain had made such a boneheaded statement?
 
What would you do cpwill?

I would have the US do what Britain did, which is to freeze out their central bank. I would also hit their oil refinery, and close off sea-side shipments of gasoline. Depending on their level of advancement and our covert capability, strikes of some kind on the nuclear program would be required as well; though whether the intent is to destroy or merely delay would depend upon how well the first set of measures were working. I would also immediately reinstate our missile shield in Eastern Europe.

The LAST thing I would do, however, would be to engage in the "oh well we can live with a nuclear Iran because on the Inside a Mullah is really just like a Western Politician" lunacy.
 
On a side note, Obama condemned the storming of the "English" embassy in Tehran.

Can you imagine the uproar if Rick Perry or Herman Cain had made such a boneheaded statement?

:D Did he condemn it in Austrian?
 
this is a violation of international law and there has to be a stong response, the time for writing strong worded letters as past. Lets start imposing stronger sanctions on them and start targeting key military targets like we did to Iraq in the 90's. Lets send them back to the dark ages and then we will see how strong the will of the people is then. Time of a bit of old fashioned gun boat dimplocay!

Interesting. I just read an article today about America's violation of international law when the U.S. invaded Grenada. Higgins, when the U.S. stands on international law it is standing knee deep in ****.
 
It hasn't been proven that the Iranian government is behind the embassy attacks, but I'm sure the western media will spin it that way because we want to invade Iran oh so badly.

Obviously not cool whatsoever that this happened, but I'm not getting emotional about it. Once you do, the government takes out its war drums and that I cannot support or consent.
 
A little background on Britain / Iran relations. They go back centuries.

" ...In the 19th Century, following the first Russo-Persian war, Iran was forced to concede territory under what was regarded as a humiliating deal for the nation.

The 1813 accord was put together by a Briton - diplomat Sir Gore Ouseley - casting an early shadow over British and Iranian relations.

Less than half a century later, the two countries were at war after the UK opposed Iran's attempts to retake Herat (in present-day Afghanistan).

Iran lost its claim, and in the 1960s the British again drew the lines of Iranian territory when it helped set its borders with India.

Meanwhile, it was British forces in Iran under Gen Edmund Ironside in the 1920s who helped put Reza Shah on the throne.

His son was Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the shah later ousted during Iran's revolution.

Mossadegh coup
In modern times, one event is seen as particularly pivotal to how Iranians view Britain: the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953.


Mossadegh was overthrown in a coup backed by Britain and the US
Mossadegh, who was elected prime minister in 1951 after the assassination of Gen Ali Razamara, had wanted to nationalise the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in which the British had a majority share.

The British sought the help of the Americans and organised a coup; Mossadegh was placed under house arrest.

Pahlavi was restored to power as shah, ruling autocratically until he himself was removed in 1979 in the Islamic Revolution. ..."

There's more than enough conflict and interference there to make Britain hated in in it's own right. In the Absence of an American Embassy, the n the puppet would seem a logical target.

BBC News - Iran and UK - centuries of mistrust
 
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A little background on Britain / Iran relations. They go back centuries.

" ...In the 19th Century, following the first Russo-Persian war, Iran was forced to concede territory under what was regarded as a humiliating deal for the nation.

The 1813 accord was put together by a Briton - diplomat Sir Gore Ouseley - casting an early shadow over British and Iranian relations.

Less than half a century later, the two countries were at war after the UK opposed Iran's attempts to retake Herat (in present-day Afghanistan).

Iran lost its claim, and in the 1960s the British again drew the lines of Iranian territory when it helped set its borders with India.

Meanwhile, it was British forces in Iran under Gen Edmund Ironside in the 1920s who helped put Reza Shah on the throne.

His son was Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the shah later ousted during Iran's revolution.

Mossadegh coup
In modern times, one event is seen as particularly pivotal to how Iranians view Britain: the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953.


Mossadegh was overthrown in a coup backed by Britain and the US
Mossadegh, who was elected prime minister in 1951 after the assassination of Gen Ali Razamara, had wanted to nationalise the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company in which the British had a majority share.

The British sought the help of the Americans and organised a coup; Mossadegh was placed under house arrest.

Pahlavi was restored to power as shah, ruling autocratically until he himself was removed in 1979 in the Islamic Revolution. ..."

There's more than enough conflict and interference there to make Britain hated in in it's own right. In the Absence of an American Embassy, the n the puppet would seem a logical target.

BBC News - Iran and UK - centuries of mistrust


lol mate the amount of countries we have pissed off is endless but we can not allow them to defy international law now and potentially build a nuke missile just because the empire was a little bit naughty back in the day.
 
Interesting. I just read an article today about America's violation of international law when the U.S. invaded Grenada. Higgins, when the U.S. stands on international law it is standing knee deep in ****.

Im not American Im british and I realise that both the US and the UK have broken their fair share of laws ( sometimes the good guys have to be the bad guys) but that doesnt mean we cant come down on Iran like a ton of bricks. I realise that this is not fair but guess what the world is not fair and we can not allow an unstable country break international law and maybe become a nuclear power.
 
Militarily speaking there's no way.

I'm not aware of any instance where Iran was capable of Global Military operations against superpowers.

Unless I've missed something.

It's not so much Iran itself the West fears, it's the people that back it. Like these guys:

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"It is puzzling to some that Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War... Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs...." And don't forget Russia, which recently said it is preparing to retaliate against NATO and has put radar stations on combat alert: "Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China. Toward Iran."

And we all know how Russia feels about us. Hear what their President had to say in response to potential military action against Syria by the west.

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"First, I am instructing the Defense Ministry to immediately put the missile attack early warning radar station in Kaliningrad on combat alert. Second, protective cover of Russia's strategic nuclear weapons, will be reinforced as a priority measure under the programme to develop out air and space defenses. Third, the new strategic ballistic missiles commissioned by the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy will be equipped with advanced missile defense penetration systems and new highly-effective warheads. Fourth, I have instructed the Armed Forces to draw up measures for disabling missile defense system data and guidance systems if need be... Fifth, if the above measures prove insufficient, the Russian Federation will deploy modern offensive weapon systems in the west and south of the country, ensuring our ability to take out any part of the US missile defense system, in Europe. One step in this process will be to deploy Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad Region.
 
It's not so much Iran itself the West fears, it's the people that back it. Like these guys:

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And we all know how Russia feels about us. Hear what their President had to say in response to potential military action against Syria by the west.

Quote starts at 7:00, click CC for English



its a bluff you really think Russia and China would engage the West over Iran?
 
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