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    Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    I am against law enforcement being allowed to use these things. Its a step towards cameras being everywhere and the government spying more on the people.

    Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA - latimes.com
    Drone aircraft, best known for their role in hunting and destroying terrorist hide-outs in Afghanistan, may soon be coming to the skies near you.

    Police agencies want drones for air support to spot runaway criminals. Utility companies believe they can help monitor oil, gas and water pipelines. Farmers think drones could aid in spraying their crops with pesticides.

    "It's going to happen," said Dan Elwell, vice president of civil aviation at the Aerospace Industries Assn. "Now it's about figuring out how to safely assimilate the technology into national airspace."
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am against law enforcement being allowed to use these things. Its a step towards cameras being everywhere and the government spying more on the people.

    Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA - latimes.com
    Drone aircraft, best known for their role in hunting and destroying terrorist hide-outs in Afghanistan, may soon be coming to the skies near you.

    Police agencies want drones for air support to spot runaway criminals. Utility companies believe they can help monitor oil, gas and water pipelines. Farmers think drones could aid in spraying their crops with pesticides. "It's going to happen," said Dan Elwell, vice president of civil aviation at the Aerospace Industries Assn. "Now it's about figuring out how to safely assimilate the technology into national airspace."
    What's the difference between this and a police helicopter?
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What's the difference between this and a police helicopter?
    It's a robot police helicopter.
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It's a robot police helicopter.
    Oh okay, I gets it. So it's a really expensive R/C.
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Expensive to build, but easier (and possibly cheaper) to employ. I don't like government overreaching much, but I don't see this one as a particularly big threat. I do have concerns about hacking and signal disruption, though.
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What's the difference between this and a police helicopter?
    Drones are way cheaper to create and maintain. They're very easy to deploy and can stay aloft longer.

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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    It is a logical step into the exploration and use of our airspace. Now the real question is, if I have a permit to hunt in my state, can I arm my drone to hunt deer?
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What's the difference between this and a police helicopter?
    With the way technology improves these things can be made smaller, quieter and made cheaper. Which means they can be deployed everywhere to spy on people and step towards armed drones being used by the police.

    A helicopter requires a pilot, its large, expensive and you can't really have a **** load of these things flying every where to spy on people while a drone can be.
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    With the way technology improves these things can be made smaller, quieter and made cheaper. Which means they can be deployed everywhere to spy on people and step towards armed drones being used by the police.
    Yes and it'll be a long time before they make it into your home or your earlobe. Chill son. Slippery slopes aren't your forte.

    A helicopter requires a pilot, its large, expensive and you can't really have a **** load of these things flying every where to spy on people while a drone can be.
    General Atomics MQ-1 Predator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Price of a drone: 4-10 million + repairs, operator salaries, mechanics, etc.

    http://www.robinsonheli.com/price_li..._pricelist.pdf

    Price of a helicopter: 300-600K + pilot, repairs, mechanics, etc.

    It seems as if the cost of purchasing/operating just 1 drone is far higher than that of 1 police helicopter. So "having a ****load of these things" flying around would be unthinkable for any police department unless they plan on downsizing man power considerably.
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    Re: Idea of civilians using drone aircraft may soon fly with FAA

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Drones are way cheaper to create and maintain. They're very easy to deploy and can stay aloft longer.
    They're also much more stealthy, unlike a police helicopter. How do we know the ways in which these drones will be used?

    Looks like more Big Brother to me.

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