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    New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http://www

    For all of those on here who kept touting the electric car as the car of the future, they seem to have a little issue. A 40k dollar car that catches fire quite easily after a crash. Car fires seem less frequent in just about all models of fuel-burning vehicles in modern day. What happened???

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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For all of those on here who kept touting the electric car as the car of the future, they seem to have a little issue. A 40k dollar car that catches fire quite easily after a crash. Car fires seem less frequent in just about all models of fuel-burning vehicles in modern day. What happened???

    New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation | Fox News
    That does it.

    Electric cars suck wind. What a bunch of bozos pursuing a technology that's so obviously unsafe. I can't believe our government is actually offering a rebate on them. Somebody's getting rich off this -- and I can absolutely assure you it's not my side. Jerks.

    Oh, wait:


    Ford Pinto: Critics alleged that the vehicle's lack of reinforcing structure between the rear panel and the tank meant the tank would be pushed forward and punctured by the protruding bolts of the differential[16] — making the car less safe than its contemporaries.
    Hold on . . .

    Toyota Recall 2010: More Than 2 Million Cars Recalled Due To Gas Pedals Issue
    Whoa!!!!

    Automobile recalls in 2010 numbered about 20 million
    It's quite obvious to me that automobiles are inherently unsafe. For all of those who touted automobiles as the next best thing to sliced bread, it would seem they have issues. Let's outlaw 'em!
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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Indeed that Volt's are not perfect out of the box is not a legitimate arguement against electric cars. All the arguements that it's not a job for the government still are valid though.

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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    If we ever achieve a certain necessary breakthrough in battery technology, then I expect to see the internal combustion engine become obsolete. A pure electric car is much more efficient than a gasoline-powered one, and at least in theory, can be simpler, more durable, and more reliable.

    The big problem is the battery. In terms of how much energy can be stored in a given weight and volume, we don't have any battery technology that comes anywhere close to gasoline.

    My forklift is electric. Its battery weights about 3500 pounds—more than most cars. I've calculated that this battery's energy capacity is about equal to about a gallon and a third of gasoline. And when run down, it takes hours to fully recharge it. Imagine trying to travel using a car that only carried a gallon and a third of gasoline, and took hours to refuel.

    The Volt is a way to compromise. A battery to get you as far as it can go on that, and a gasoline-fueled engine to take you anywhere beyond that. But we'll never enjoy the full benefits of an electric car until we have one that can achieve a usable range without having to carry a separate internal-combustion-powered drive train as the Volt does.
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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For all of those on here who kept touting the electric car as the car of the future, they seem to have a little issue. A 40k dollar car that catches fire quite easily after a crash. Car fires seem less frequent in just about all models of fuel-burning vehicles in modern day. What happened???

    New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation | Fox News
    what happened in the 1970s when, nearly a century into gasoline-powered automobile technology, Pintos began exploding during and after accidents?

    was it :

    a. a design flaw in that particular model
    or
    b. an indictment of all internal combustion technology, with the only logical response being the abandonment of gasoline powered vehicles

    ?

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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For all of those on here who kept touting the electric car as the car of the future, they seem to have a little issue. A 40k dollar car that catches fire quite easily after a crash. Car fires seem less frequent in just about all models of fuel-burning vehicles in modern day. What happened???

    New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation | Fox News
    Could be worse. The Ferrari 458 catches fire if you drive it fast on a hot day. But anyways the electric car isnt the future. Hydrogen powered cars are.

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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    For all of those on here who kept touting the electric car as the car of the future, they seem to have a little issue. A 40k dollar car that catches fire quite easily after a crash. Car fires seem less frequent in just about all models of fuel-burning vehicles in modern day. What happened???

    New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation | Fox News
    So what's a used Chevy Volt selling for these days?

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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    But anyways the electric car isnt the future. Hydrogen powered cars are.
    I disagree. I think hydrogen is something that isn't ever going to come close to living up to all the hype.

    It's very difficult to store any useful amount of hydrogen, and I do not see any reason to think that this will change any time soon.

    It also takes more energy to produce hydrogen than you get back by burning it.

    That's really what makes petroleum so valuable, and why it will be very difficult to replace. We expend a huge amount of money, time, labor, energy, and other resources to obtain petroleum and to process it into various fuels. But once we have done that, we get enough energy out of burning it to make it worth much more than it cost us to obtain and process. This will never be true of hydrogen. Hydrogen will always require us to put more energy into obtaining it than we can get by burning it.
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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    I can't wait to buy one of these over-priced pieces of crap. How much has this car cost the taxpayers, so far?
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    Re: New Post-Accident Chevy Volt Engine Fires Prompt Investigation Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I disagree. I think hydrogen is something that isn't ever going to come close to living up to all the hype.

    It's very difficult to store any useful amount of hydrogen, and I do not see any reason to think that this will change any time soon.

    It also takes more energy to produce hydrogen than you get back by burning it.

    That's really what makes petroleum so valuable, and why it will be very difficult to replace. We expend a huge amount of money, time, labor, energy, and other resources to obtain petroleum and to process it into various fuels. But once we have done that, we get enough energy out of burning it to make it worth much more than it cost us to obtain and process. This will never be true of hydrogen. Hydrogen will always require us to put more energy into obtaining it than we can get by burning it.
    It is difficult to store however they have managed to find a way to do it in California. They have hydrogen fueling stations there already.

    Yes a hydrogen internal combustion engine isnt all that efficient but a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is 100-200% more efficient then a gasoline ICE.

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