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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    The kind of business person who has their own money invested in a business and is being forced to redistribute it to someone else. My responsibility is to take care of my family and my shareholders not you or someone else who many not have a clue. You seem to believe that I am in business to support you.

    How are you going to do that and not have excess to the largest economy in the world to sell you widgets?
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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Does that include Reagan tripling the debt and W doubling it?
    Tripling the debt added 1.7 trillion to the debt-Reagan
    Doubling the debt was taking it from 5.7 trillion to 10.6 trillion in 8 years-Bush
    Obama has added 4.4 trillion in 3 years. So let's see.

    Reagan 1.7 in 8 years or 200 billion a year
    Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 years or 600 billion a year
    Obama 4.4 trillion in 3 years or 1.4 trillion a year.

    Hmmm, wonder which one cost the American taxpayer the most?

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    How are you going to do that and not have excess to the largest economy in the world to sell you widgets?
    In a World economy don't need access to what you offer in terms of high taxes, high regulations, and the entitlement mentality.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    Tripling the debt added 1.7 trillion to the debt-Reagan
    Doubling the debt was taking it from 5.7 trillion to 10.6 trillion in 8 years-Bush
    Obama has added 4.4 trillion in 3 years. So let's see.

    Reagan 1.7 in 8 years or 200 billion a year
    Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 years or 600 billion a year
    Obama 4.4 trillion in 3 years or 1.4 trillion a year.

    Hmmm, wonder which one cost the American taxpayer the most?
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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The size relative to what, Con?
    Govt budget, Pb. Think Adam Smith or anyone else envisioned a 3.7 trillion dollar budget?

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    Govt budget, Pb. Think Adam Smith or anyone else envisioned a 3.7 trillion dollar budget?
    Do you think that Adam Smith envisioned a country with 300+ million people or an area stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the St. Lawrence River to the Gulf of Mexico? If you are going to compare things, you must compare them on equal planes. This is what I was trying to explain to you when we discussed percentages. Raw numbers are meaningless if you are doing comparisons.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    In a World economy don't need access to what you offer in terms of high taxes, high regulations, and the entitlement mentality.
    What nonsense. Glad you donít run a business that I have money invested in.
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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    What nonsense. Glad you don’t run a business that I have money invested in.
    Why would you invest money in an American business in this economic environment? You believe it is the role of business to be forced to redistribute profits as directed by the Federal Govt? Sounds to me like you have disdain for American business and don't understand even how a business operates

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Cool, then we agree on this one.Warren Buffet will now pay the same taxrate as his secretary on all of his income including SS.HELL!...lets go with 9% thatsa good and poplar number nowadays.

    I have absolutely no problem with every person paying the exact same income tax rate on every dollar they are paid. I do however, think that this would never fly due to the recipient class raising holy hell over it, and the liberal politicians pandering to them for their voting block. It should also be noted that this I would not agree to unless, and until I see both the 47% paying this without a way to weasel out, and serious real cuts in spending made first.

    NAH,we have to get some blood directly from the ole turnip.
    Nope, Corporations don't pay tax, they pass it on. This is an easy concept even for liberals to understand. So, no deal.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why would you invest money in an American business in this economic environment? You believe it is the role of business to be forced to redistribute profits as directed by the Federal Govt? Sounds to me like you have disdain for American business and don't understand even how a business operates

    Care to show me how you come to this conclusion from what I have posted?

    As for the answer to this question “Why would you invest money in an American business in this economic environment? “Because I believe in capitalism and there is a lot of low hanging fruit on the roller coaster called stockmarket. somehow I have managed to snag some of the low hanging plums.
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