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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Everyone has skin in the game. You msitaking believe that FIT are the only taxes that can give skin. That's a false assumption on your part. You want more paying more, help more people get back to the middle class. At least give them as much help as you freely give the wealthy.
    FIT are the taxes Obama are proposing increasing but only on the rich and those are the taxes that fund the Federal Govt. Diversion to other taxes ignores the problem that FIT is supposed to fund the govt. and its operations.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wouldn't go that far. I believe no president can FIX the economy. Calls for one to do so is silly. I believe Obama did much of what could be done. The only other thing he could have done was spend more, which would have made tea party memebers heads explode.
    How much more? Double, Triple? How much debt must be out there to destroy our children's lives before you would say enough?

    Government can control the debte, which would help
    How does propaganda help? Obama had nearly the entire MSM running cover for him and his criminal policies and he still managed to reveal his plan of destruction.

    Business cylces, and any real solutiont o the economy will come from people outside government.
    Yeah, well you are certainly not going to get business to do these things while you threaten to confiscate their success if they do....Gheese!

    Tax cuts won't save us. Government spending is only temporary relief at best
    So then do we agree that Obama should get government out of the way of business?

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How much more? Double, Triple? How much debt must be out there to destroy our children's lives before you would say enough?
    Well, your new found interst in the debt is heart warming, but I never said he should spend more. Isaid it was all he really could have done. I suggest we stop asking government to fix it.

    How does propaganda help? Obama had nearly the entire MSM running cover for him and his criminal policies and he still managed to reveal his plan of destruction.
    That's your koolaid talking again. My comment was the government can control the debt. They can if they have the will too.


    Yeah, well you are certainly not going to get business to do these things while you threaten to confiscate their success if they do....Gheese!
    No one is trheatening to confiscate success. That too is your hyperbolic koolaid talking. We've taxed them much more and success was not confiscated, business thrived and the economy grew. You're buying into a premise that is patiently false.

    So then do we agree that Obama should get government out of the way of business?

    j-mac
    Depends on what you mean by that. Should there be no regulations? No. Some are most needed. Shoudl we not tax business? No. They share responsibility for this country as much as anyone. However, if you ask government to do something, they will. And thatcan only mean more spending.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    FIT are the taxes Obama are proposing increasing but only on the rich and those are the taxes that fund the Federal Govt. Diversion to other taxes ignores the problem that FIT is supposed to fund the govt. and its operations.
    They can handle it. I can handle it. Most of us won't even notice it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    and in the short run... but hey, movement in the right direction, and (politically) a welcome realization of reality by the CBO.
    That's a rather biased article since the stimulus was never meant to be long term. The intent of it was to sustain the economy for the short term with the hope that the private sector could get back on its feet during that period.

    But I believe I saw someone else point out that article was found in the Moonie Times, so that would explain the bias.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They can handle it. I can handle it. Most of us won't even notice it.
    What makes you an expert on what everyone else can handle? Where does incentive reside in your world? Are you the only person in the world that doesn't react to having more and less money in your paycheck? Yours is an opinion but an opinion that ignores human behavior as well as Congressional actions. Name for me one time in modern history where there have been actual spending cuts and how do you justify the 3.7 trillion dollar budget today?

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wouldn't go that far. I believe no president can FIX the economy. Calls for one to do so is silly. I believe Obama did much of what could be done. The only other thing he could have done was spend more, which would have made tea party memebers heads explode.
    Your arguement cancels itself out.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Your arguement cancels itself out.
    Meaning what? I didn't say it would fix the economy. I said it was the only action he could have taken. I did not say it would have been an effective action.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Meaning what? I didn't say it would fix the economy. I said it was the only action he could have taken. I did not say it would have been an effective action.
    LOL, O.K. sorry. Fair enough, we agree.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What makes you an expert on what everyone else can handle? Where does incentive reside in your world? Are you the only person in the world that doesn't react to having more and less money in your paycheck? Yours is an opinion but an opinion that ignores human behavior as well as Congressional actions. Name for me one time in modern history where there have been actual spending cuts and how do you justify the 3.7 trillion dollar budget today?
    I did say us. And we actually have studies on this. Business actually was quite successful at the higher tax rate. Wealthy were still wealthy. The world did not crash.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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