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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yep, much like what he took over. This **** is hard to fix quickly.
    REALLY???? Suprised...It appears that you and Conservative are not so far apart...I think based on YOUR statement above you and he could agree that BHO has done nothing hence it looks 'much like what he took over'...???

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    Ike managed it pretty well with 90% federal funding so I guess we could manage the same. He set up the "National System of Interstate Highways,"but was at a loss for a way to fund it. My way thatís not a problem.


    What was the effective tax rate under Ike? You think it was 90%? What was the budget during Ike's term? You think we need a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal govt?

    As for the highways they aren't funded by FIT so learn what your taxes actually pay for



    Spoken like a true liberal, almost 50% of income earners don't pay any FIT and you don't have a problem with that?


    Lets take it one step at a time shall we?

    You posted this (Just goes to show how ineffecient the govt.) in post #124, in reply to my post #123, where I said this (We should double up on the stimulus and put it into rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure.)

    My referencing the interstate system was that 90% of it was federal money, now that you have the gist of what I was meaning see if you can keep up.

    It would help if you could master the quote button.
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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    Lets take it one step at a time shall we?

    You posted this (Just goes to show how ineffecient the govt.) in post #124, in reply to my post #123, where I said this (We should double up on the stimulus and put it into rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure.)

    My referencing the interstate system was that 90% of it was federal money, now that you have the gist of what I was meaning see if you can keep up.

    It would help if you could master the quote button.
    Are you ever going to recognize that FIT do not fund the highway system? Just as I thought, you don't have a clue what the tax dollars fund?

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Duh...didnít see any mass exodus of wealthy United States taxpayers during the gipper years.
    Take a good look at what is going on in NY, MD, MI, along with the host of other states taxing the **** out of the wealthy. They are leaving just as I did three years ago.

    But the bottom line you have to explain is if the Bush tax cuts were so ruinous, then why did revenue go up during his terms?


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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post

    Are you ever going to recognize that FIT do not fund the highway system? Just as I thought, you don't have a clue what the tax dollars fund?
    If you got the impression that I was worried about what federal dollars fund, Iím sorry. My main concern when I posted this (We should double up on the stimulus and put it into rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure) was creating jobs and putting the unemployed back to work.

    My way of doing that would mean that the only people whose real wages have gone up over the last decade should pay the lions share. That tax increase, combined with budget cuts should do the job.

    If you donít think that the rebuilding of the interstates is the way to go about it lets have your ideas of where we should put the money. How about a high-speed rail system from New York to Miami? Lets go big time when we get them to Miami, lets put them on another high speed to Orlando and Disney world. Whathehell!! Its only money.
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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Where did the first $800 Billion go? I thought that was supposed to go toward that? Shovel ready and all...


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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

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    If you got the impression that I was worried about what federal dollars fund, I’m sorry. My main concern when I posted this (We should double up on the stimulus and put it into rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure) was creating jobs and putting the unemployed back to work.

    My way of doing that would mean that the only people whose real wages have gone up over the last decade should pay the lions share. That tax increase, combined with budget cuts should do the job.

    If you don’t think that the rebuilding of the interstates is the way to go about it lets have your ideas of where we should put the money. How about a high-speed rail system from New York to Miami? Lets go big time when we get them to Miami, lets put them on another high speed to Orlando and Disney world. Whathehell!! Its only money.
    Double up on the stimulus? Obama has added 4.4 trillion to the debt with the stimulus he implemented along with other programs. How much debt is acceptable to you? Please tell me how promoting redistribution of wealth creates incentive to create jobs and individual wealth?

    The answer to our economy is to recognize first it is private sector driven, second that individual responsibility exists thus consequences for failure, third, social engineering isn't the role of the Federal govt. Obama doesn't understand that reality.

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Where did the first $800 Billion go? I thought that was supposed to go toward that? Shovel ready and all...


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    As it turned out, saving the unions and their pension funds was Obama's definition of shovel ready

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As it turned out, saving the unions and their pension funds was Obama's definition of shovel ready
    Well, they need more...It is an election year after all, they need the money to funnel back into Obama's campaign so they can buy their guy again. I mean if it paid off that good in a first term, imagine what they can steal in a second term....

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    Re: CBO: Stimulus hurts economy in the long run

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, they need more...It is an election year after all, they need the money to funnel back into Obama's campaign so they can buy their guy again. I mean if it paid off that good in a first term, imagine what they can steal in a second term....

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    Exactly right, the more union jobs, the more union dues and thus more campaign contributions for Obama

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