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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh, we have another guy here who can decide the validity of a movement! Wow, good to have you! Now, actually, this is at Berkley, so I am not aware of how long they were there and I doubt you are either. In fact, by a quick search, I believe this was a one-day protest:

    Berkeley president calls pepper spray incident 'appalling'


    Again, it is not your job to determine the validity of the movement, and while you are of course entitled to your opinion, your opinion does not allow for excessive police force either.
    What is excessive about it? Tell me when surrounded with agitated (by your own words) protesters what should they have done....Said pretty please?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They were told to disperse. They didn't, and they were met with what was told to them would happen. Too bad.

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    And you demonstrate your disdain for freedom. You essentially say that the police just have to say they have to move and if they don't then they can use force. That's government force against the free exercise of rights and has no limitations set upon the State for what it can and cannot "disperse". It in essence can say any and all assembly and protest can be told to "disperse" and if not, then force can be used. It's a bit sick if you ask me. I'd prefer to be free than enslaved thank you very much.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Good point, the civil rights movement was an overnight protest.
    lol, talking about Rosa Parks being told to leave... not the civil rights protest. In the civil rights protest they didn't occupy streets for long periods of time. Now, did they?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is excessive about it? Tell me when surrounded with agitated (by your own words) protesters what should they have done....Said pretty please?

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    Government force against the free exercise of rights, that was what is excessive. There was no legitimate reason to have broken up peaceful assembly and protest.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    lol, talking about Rosa Parks being told to leave... not the civil rights protest. In the civil rights protest they didn't occupy streets for long periods of time. Now, did they?
    There were plenty of various forms of protest from peaceful to those calling for violence. We have the right to peacefully assemble and protest. No where does that say it's subjected to time spans.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    3. the protesters surrounded the police as they were leaving, cutting them off from back up, or exit routes.
    Bullcrap. Video doesn't lie, unlike you.



    I don't even support the Occupy movement, and now I sure as hell want to just to spite people like you who would spit on rights just because you hate the protesters.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is excessive about it? Tell me when surrounded with agitated (by your own words) protesters what should they have done....Said pretty please?

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    Not my words, but whatever. Why not pepper spray the "agitated" crowd then, instead of the group of people sitting on the ground with their arms interlocked? You've seen the video, right? Even after being sprayed they were docile, which is impressive. Look, guy, when this is happening, I don't see how you can defend it:

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    I don't care if she sat there for 3 years, pepper spraying an 84-year old lady can't be construed as anything other than brutal. They are lucky she was in good health because she could have died from suffocation.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    lol, talking about Rosa Parks being told to leave... not the civil rights protest. In the civil rights protest they didn't occupy streets for long periods of time. Now, did they?
    So you compare one person's act of protest from 1955 to a group of people protesting for 2 months? The actions of Rosa Parks lasted some 13 years until the civil rights movement ended.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There were plenty of various forms of protest from peaceful to those calling for violence. We have the right to peacefully assemble and protest. No where does that say it's subjected to time spans.
    You have the right to assemble and protest. Gotcha. Never disagreed.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    So you compare one person's act of protest from 1955 to a group of people protesting for 2 months? The actions of Rosa Parks lasted some 13 years until the civil rights movement ended.
    Your little buddies started comparing not me... Go back and read.

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