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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I know what is laughable is to compare protesting for the equal rights of black people to have a fair shake in society is a far cry from over indulged collage students wanting their loans paid off.

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    j-mac, do you think people in 1955 respected Rosa Parks and her cause? A great majority would have loved to see her pepper sprayed. That's why your opinion on the cause should not change their ability to protest.

    Are you really not seeing this or are you just refusing to admit that pepper spraying people who are sitting down is probably a bad move?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You want to take a sober look? Okay. An officer was surrounded by agitated protesters. He walked up to the least threatening of the protesters who were sitting the ground. Made a big show of shaking the can and looking at the crowd. He then calmly walked back and forth spraying all the seated protesters despite the growing agitation of those surrounding him.

    To me this looks like a cop who was trying to incite the crowd into violence. He knew the crowd was agitated and he wanted to push them over the edge and get them to react in a violent manner by attacking the protesters who were sitting and posed no threat. I would say his behavior was aimed not at protecting the public and property, but at inciting the crowd to become violent.

    So, it is ok with you to surround police, and ignore their orders even when they tell you force is about to be used....Got it...I guess rule of law is subjective in your world.


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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Are you really not seeing this or are you just refusing to admit that pepper spraying people who are sitting down is probably a bad move?
    He is being partisan about something that has nothing to do with partisanship. His uninformed view of the college protesters and what they were protesting is more than enough proof of it.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    j-mac, do you think people in 1955 respected Rosa Parks and her cause? A great majority would have loved to see her pepper sprayed. That's why your opinion on the cause should not change their ability to protest.

    Are you really not seeing this or are you just refusing to admit that pepper spraying people who are sitting down is probably a bad move?
    I don't think that the protests of 1955 on have the slightest thing at all in common with OWS, and their message of anti capitalism, and whining over having to pay back contracts they agreed to.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, it is ok with you to surround police, and ignore their orders even when they tell you force is about to be used....Got it...I guess rule of law is subjective in your world.


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    A police officer is not the "rule of law". A police officer is an enforcer of the laws and is subject to them just like the rest of us. This was an example of excessive force by a police officer, which makes the police officer a criminal.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not a good analogy at all. The civil rights movement was truly a peaceful movement. This one is not.


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    I am sure that when they were being sprayed down by hoses and had dogs sicked on them that someone like you said:

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    They were told to disburse, and the crowd, those of whom these jack asses were a part of defied the order. They were informed that force would be used, they sat, and got sprayed....I don't feel sorry for them in any manner at all.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He is being partisan about something that has nothing to do with partisanship. His uninformed view of the college protesters and what they were protesting is more than enough proof of it.

    Um....excuse me. Just who the hell do you think you are arrogantly talking about here? Did I give you permission to speak for me? No I don't think I did. Instead of violating rules, let's talk.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I am sure that when they were being sprayed down by hoses and had dogs sicked on them that someone like you said:
    It's amazing how history repeats itself and those with prejudice always remain the same even when the subject of the prejudice changes.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't think that the protests of 1955 on have the slightest thing at all in common with OWS, and their message of anti capitalism, and whining over having to pay back contracts they agreed to.

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    That's not your job to decide the validity of protests! And moreover, the validity of the protest itself is completely unrelated to the right to protest. It wasn't written in the Constitution that ****ty protests can be forcibly dispersed, but protests with a real cause cannot. We all get it, j-mac, you don't agree with the protests, but that doesn't change the fact that you think Rosa Parks should have been sprayed in the face with mace for civil disobedience.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's not your job to decide the validity of protests! It wasn't written in the Constitution that ****ty protests can be forcibly dispersed, but protests with a real cause cannot. We all get it, j-mac, you don't agree with the protests, but that doesn't change the fact that you think Rosa Parks should have been sprayed in the face with mace for civil disobedience.

    Now you are just lying. Show me right now where I said I though Rosa Parks should be pepper sprayed. If you can't then we are done here.

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