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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How did the people who were sitting on the ground in front of the police, "surround them"? You do realize how absurd your comments are coming across, right? If the police officers had used the pepper spray on the people who were standing and surrounding them, then you may have had a point, but using it on people who were sitting in a completely passive manner is not "surrounding officers" no matter how you try to spin it. You are willfully trying to justify the actions of the police officers by claiming they acted in the interest of their own protection, and yet there was no discernible threat from the people sitting on the ground. Please tell me how they were being threatening?

    They were told to disburse, and the crowd, those of whom these jack asses were a part of defied the order. They were informed that force would be used, they sat, and got sprayed....I don't feel sorry for them in any manner at all.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They were told to disburse, and the crowd, those of whom these jack asses were a part of defied the order. They were informed that force would be used, they sat, and got sprayed....I don't feel sorry for them in any manner at all.

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    So I guess Rosa Parks should have been pepper sprayed as well, right j-mac?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And I worry for dumb ass students that can not understand that they are told to disburse, and then surround police and think that is ok, or that it is going to end well for them...Maybe they wanted to get sprayed that is why they defied the order.

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    Once again...sitting on the ground in front of someone is not "surrounding them". I would advise you not to ever teach a classroom full of students since the act of them sitting in front of you would apparently be a threat to your well being.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So I guess Rosa Parks should have been pepper sprayed as well, right j-mac?
    Not a good analogy at all. The civil rights movement was truly a peaceful movement. This one is not.


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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So I guess Rosa Parks should have been pepper sprayed as well, right j-mac?
    That woman was threatening the hell out of that officer! She was obviously surrounding him by sitting there and was a major threat to his well being!
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not a good analogy at all. The civil rights movement was truly a peaceful movement. This one is not.


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    Oh you decide which movements have merit now? What world do you live in!?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not a good analogy at all. The civil rights movement was truly a peaceful movement. This one is not.


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    Sooooo....what exactly is so violent about sitting with your arms interlocked?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sooooo....what exactly is so violent about sitting with your arms interlocked?
    No one is saying that action is a violent one. But let's take a sober look at this ok?

    The officers were dispatched to remove tents, not protesters, tents from the quad. When they arrived they were surrounded by 200 protesters, giving them no way out, and cutting them off from back up. So whether or not you view the beautifully edited snippet of video and think it is ok to surround police, and cut them off from back up is ok, or not, you get what you get if you are warned, and ignore the warning.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Oh you decide which movements have merit now? What world do you live in!?
    I know what is laughable is to compare protesting for the equal rights of black people to have a fair shake in society is a far cry from over indulged collage students wanting their loans paid off.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No one is saying that action is a violent one. But let's take a sober look at this ok?

    The officers were dispatched to remove tents, not protesters, tents from the quad. When they arrived they were surrounded by 200 protesters, giving them no way out, and cutting them off from back up. So whether or not you view the beautifully edited snippet of video and think it is ok to surround police, and cut them off from back up is ok, or not, you get what you get if you are warned, and ignore the warning.

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    You want to take a sober look? Okay. An officer was surrounded by agitated protesters. He walked up to the least threatening of the protesters who were sitting the ground. Made a big show of shaking the can and looking at the crowd. He then calmly walked back and forth spraying all the seated protesters despite the growing agitation of those surrounding him.

    To me this looks like a cop who was trying to incite the crowd into violence. He knew the crowd was agitated and he wanted to push them over the edge and get them to react in a violent manner by attacking the protesters who were sitting and posed no threat. I would say his behavior was aimed not at protecting the public and property, but at inciting the crowd to become violent.
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