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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im gonna pepper spray all those protesters that stand on sidewalks now like this!



    These protesters (i mean mob group) were blocking my access to the sidewalk! I couldnt get through these protesters (i mean mob).. They should all be pepper sprayed!
    Damn tea parties!
    Now let's at least try and be honest here. Access to the sidewalk in a permitted event is far different from blocking the actual sidewalk in direct defiance of police order to move. Isn't it now.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

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    Who died?


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    I didn't say anyone did, but the potential is there. Besides the tragic loss of life the lawsuits would be astronomical.


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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now let's at least try and be honest here. Access to the sidewalk in a permitted event is far different from blocking the actual sidewalk in direct defiance of police order to move. Isn't it now.

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    Yes. I agree. Though, let's be honest here, I would not support them being pepper sprayed as well, even if they were practicing non-violent civil disobedience.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why fire the officer?
    Because I feel that the people who are responsible for upholding our laws and who are invested with the power to do so should be held to a higher standard than a normal person. And as such should be punished more harshly when they abuse that power.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Yes. I agree. Though, let's be honest here, I would not support them being pepper sprayed as well, even if they were practicing non-violent civil disobedience.
    How would video of their being mandhandled by mulitiple cops, pried apart from one another in front of a jeering crowd, make you feel any better about this?

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    Re: Pepper spray: US campus police suspended

    It's absolutely incredible what behavior against human beings people find tolerable when the human beings in questions hold an opposing viewpoint.

    I remember when conservatives were complaining because the tea partiers were frequently depicted as ignorant racists by the media, but pepper-spraying nonviolent protesters whose main complaint is that Wall Street holds too much sway in American politics? Well, that's just okey dokey.

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    Re: Pepper spray: US campus police suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's absolutely incredible what behavior against human beings people find tolerable when the human beings in questions hold an opposing viewpoint.

    I remember when conservatives were complaining because the tea partiers were frequently depicted as ignorant racists by the media, but pepper-spraying nonviolent protesters whose main complaint is that Wall Street holds too much sway in American politics? Well, that's just okey dokey.
    Okey freakin' dokey.

    When TPers defy the cops and they get sprayed, I'll say the same.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    How would video of their being mandhandled by mulitiple cops, pried apart from one another in front of a jeering crowd, make you feel any better about this?
    That still happened. That's how the police are taught to handcuff. As you can see in this video, they pepper spray they students, but then they still have to grab them one by one and drag them out, turn them over, and handcuff them.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Whether you believe it right or not, the right exists and MUST be recognized and upheld to its maximum. It is one of the consequences and repercussions of freedom. If you seek a free State, you MUST have the resolve and conviction to KEEP a free State.

    Back in the 50's and such, the anarchists were allowed to preach open revolt and violence against the government. We've fallen a long way since there.
    This.

    I am also very wary of people who automatically side with the government, authority, and use of force. When we have swaths of the population defending tyranny, it does not bode well. I am honestly of the opinion now that our country's rights are going to continue to degenerate until open revolt happens. It might take hitting rock bottom before the partisan hacks stop turning to government to uphold their views and quash others.

    Noam Chomsky said it best when he said that you must be willing to support the free speech and rights of your most despised political opponents to gather in protest. If you don't believe this, then you don't believe in free speech.

    We have people here who think that protesting now means you should quaintly gather and hand out pamphlets. Major protest has never been about civility and not offending people. The whole point is to be ruckus, yet non-violent.

    I really think our country has lost its way... and it's going to have dire consequences.

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    Re: Pepper spray: US campus police suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's absolutely incredible what behavior against human beings people find tolerable when the human beings in questions hold an opposing viewpoint.

    I remember when conservatives were complaining because the tea partiers were frequently depicted as ignorant racists by the media, but pepper-spraying nonviolent protesters whose main complaint is that Wall Street holds too much sway in American politics? Well, that's just okey dokey.
    If that were the actual message that all agreed with I could get on board. But it isn't is it now? Anti Semitic, Anti Capitalism, Anarchy, and general abolishing of what this country is. It runs the gambit, and no cohesive message can be found.

    I mean if Crony Capitalism were the solid message then they would be protesting outside 1600 Pennsylvania ave. now wouldn't they?

    Nah, this is a bunch of spoiled brats that don't want to pay back their student loans, and think it is unfair that their Bolivian underwater basket weaving degree won't land them a job over 16K

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