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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    Your right someone may have been disorderly, considered the same as a traffic ticket. Maybe they should have issued some tickets. BUT NOPE! Law Enforcement breaks the laws on felony levels, did any of them get arrested?
    I'll ask you one more time... Please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

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    And you think that the protesters would have willingly allowed this?
    Yes. Even after being pepper sprayed without provocation the protesters were completely docile and did not resist. That is further proof that you are wrong. Now please stop talking to me. You are a horrible human being and a liar and I have no interest in continuing this discussion with you when it is apparent that you have no interest in truth or humanity.

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    The use of pepper spray succeeded in dispersing the protesters without bloodshed, without a physical altercation between police and protesters breaking out, and without any serious criminal charges being filed against anyone. I would say that the use of physical, brute force removal as you suggest, wouldn't have such a peaceful outcome.
    People had to be hospitalized because of the pepper spraying. Further proof that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    And you think that the protesters would have willingly allowed this? If you look at the video, you will see that they locked arms and made their wrists unaccessible. Did it occur to you, such action would have resulted in a lot of physical injury (as opposed to temporary irritation with pepper spray), with a high potential of a physical altercation between police and protesters breaking out? Such altercations often lead to felony assault charges being filed, while the use of pepper spray only resulted in misdemeanor charges. You are also assuming that the police had the man power to physically move all those students locked in arm like they were. Based on what I saw, that didn't look very likely.

    The use of pepper spray succeeded in dispersing the protesters without bloodshed, without a physical altercation between police and protesters breaking out, and without any serious criminal charges being filed against anyone. I would say that the use of physical, brute force removal as you suggest, wouldn't have such a peaceful outcome.
    So nonviolent acts of protests are now signs that violence could ensue? What is less violent than sitting down and holding hands/locking arms? Did you really just construe that as threatening?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    And you think that the protesters would have willingly allowed this? If you look at the video, you will see that they locked arms and made their wrists unaccessible. Did it occur to you, such action would have resulted in a lot of physical injury (as opposed to temporary irritation with pepper spray), with a high potential of a physical altercation between police and protesters breaking out? Such altercations often lead to felony assault charges being filed, while the use of pepper spray only resulted in misdemeanor charges. You are also assuming that the police had the man power to physically move all those students locked in arm like they were. Based on what I saw, that didn't look very likely.

    The use of pepper spray succeeded in dispersing the protesters without bloodshed, without a physical altercation between police and protesters breaking out, and without any serious criminal charges being filed against anyone. I would say that the use of physical, brute force removal as you suggest, wouldn't have such a peaceful outcome.
    Why not then just leave them be? Let them have their peaceful assembly and protest and avoid questionable police tactics and government force against the free exercise of rights by the individual all together? It seems that there's a lot of excuse for police intervention and everyone is saying "well their arms were interlinked, so it's reasonable to have the cops use greater force". Well why isn't it reasonable to just allow them the exercise of their rights instead?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    By the way, you hypocrites keep citing the law, but continue to ignore that I have shown multiple times that an appellate court has found this reaction towards peaceful protest to be unlawful!
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    By the way, you hypocrites keep citing the law, but continue to ignore that I have shown multiple times that an appellate court has found this reaction towards peaceful protest to be unlawful!
    Because they are criminal thinkers. They are using criminal thinking to rationalize the criminal behaviors of others. They are no better.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'll ask you one more time... Please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?
    Ok one more time...

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    Our department doesn't deal with civil issues! Please use the courts if you want something done further and went home.
    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    Your right someone may have been disorderly, considered the same as a traffic ticket. Maybe they should have issued some tickets. BUT NOPE! Law Enforcement breaks the laws on felony levels, did any of them get arrested?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Resistance would be escalation and appropriate force could be used.
    And, would we still see the hand-wringers crying about police brutality.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, would we still see the hand-wringers crying about police brutality.
    And once again we see apdst trolling, but I'll probably get thread-banned again for pointing it out. Welcome to the thread, apdst. Care to add anything?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yes. Even after being pepper sprayed without provocation the protesters were completely docile and did not resist. That is further proof that you are wrong. Now please stop talking to me. You are a horrible human being and a liar and I have no interest in continuing this discussion with you when it is apparent that you have no interest in truth or humanity.



    People had to be hospitalized because of the pepper spraying. Further proof that you have no idea what you are talking about.
    Oh, because they were docile AFTER being pepper sprayed??? LMAO

    Here's a little incite for you... Resisting police as they did, IS NOT DOCILE.

    Here's what you would have rather seen:

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