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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sounds like your department is as useless as tits on a bull.
    This is were I keep saying that we need to quit funding these monkeys, If they see no blatant crime being committed and no court injunction, then what went on here is worth the same, minus all the money pissed away with calling in the extra goons and the lawsuit payouts before it is said and done. What a sham.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    OK... For those of you who think the police were out of line, please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?
    Handcuffed the sitting protesters and dragged them away.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Am I to understand, that you are suggesting that police not enforce the law and just walk away?
    The law must abide by the rights and liberties of the individual.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What law, exactly? What should the police have done to enforce the law with Rosa Parks?
    The fact that protesters were violating the law, is not in dispute... So I ask again, please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The law must abide by the rights and liberties of the individual.
    I'm not asking for your opinion of the law they were violating, I'm asking you to please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The fact that protesters were violating the law, is not in dispute... So I ask again, please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?
    What law? And I already said, if there were any laws being broken, the people were sitting on the ground with their hands by their sides... arrest them one by one. I've already shown that the courts have found this type of response to peaceful protest to be excessive. Go back one page and you can read it for yourself.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Am I to understand, that you are suggesting that police not enforce the law and just walk away?
    Sorry I thought I seen that you are conservative not a socialist, look you know as well as I do without getting hypocritical that law enforcement is one of the biggest social programs in the U.S.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not asking for your opinion of the law they were violating, I'm asking you to please tell me in your opinion, exactly what the police should have done to enforce the law in this situation?
    Since it was non-violent and passive, you could have handcuffed them and hauled them off. Though the use of arbitrary law to infringe upon peaceful association and protest is in and of itself very suspect.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's not a valid reason to pepper spray anyone.

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    This appellate court disagrees with you.
    No, I don't think so. Were the individuals in this case surrounding the police? Were they interlocking arms as to prohibit the officers effecting an arrest on these people by not allowing them to be moved? Were these protesters that the court is talking about her blocking a walk, or road way?

    Pepper spray is not only a legal, but an effective way to disperse a crowd, and effect arrests while minimizing the threat to officers involved in crowd control.


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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Since it was non-violent and passive, you could have handcuffed them and hauled them off. Though the use of arbitrary law to infringe upon peaceful association and protest is in and of itself very suspect.

    No, you are wrong. They tried that. View the second video provided earlier. With the arms interlocked, they would have had to fight directly with the protesters.


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