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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    I just hate how you guys only care about these dirty hippies and not every other citizen that lives in that city.
    Why, were they getting maced too?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why, were they getting maced too?
    No, worse, they had to smell that awful hippy stench.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is excessive about it? Tell me when surrounded with agitated (by your own words) protesters what should they have done....Said pretty please?

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    Alright, let's assume for a moment that you are correct that the police were surrounded by agitated and possibly dangerous protestors(which I don't think you are correct), and you are fearing for your safety, why would you pepper spray the LEAST threatening protestors sitting down? It makes NO SENSE PERIOD.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry, I thought that was you...If I was mistaken, I don't want to attribute something to you that you didn't say.

    All we have is a 1:05 minute snippet of video. Do you think that the confrontation lasted a little longer than that? Do you know for a fact what happened before this moment in time?

    Pepper spray used for crowd control is quite debilitating...I am not surprised at all. That is what this is for, so that they don't have to crack your head with a club.

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    Pepper spray can be lethal and people have died from it. As a means to control a crowd that is becoming violent or out-of-control, I can see it's purpose. Yeah, you're right, we only see 1:05 of this clip, but unless you can explain why the people who were sprayed were sitting down, I am not sure I get your point.

    If I am at a bar and 3 guys are in my face and I turn around and punch a guy sitting down and minding his own business, how does that make sense?
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    No, worse, they had to smell that awful hippy stench.
    Well olfactory offense is not a right, so I guess we'll have to keep supporting the rights of the individual in this case.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    I just hate how you guys only care about these dirty hippies and not every other citizen that lives in that city.
    Actually, I care for anyone who gets their rights violated by our government.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well olfactory offense is not a right, so I guess we'll have to keep supporting the rights of the individual in this case.
    I admit I did laugh. I will picture him as Cartman from here on out, though.
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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Pepper spray can be lethal and people have died from it. As a means to control a crowd that is becoming violent or out-of-control, I can see it's purpose. Yeah, you're right, we only see 1:05 of this clip, but unless you can explain why the people who were sprayed were sitting down, I am not sure I get your point.

    If I am at a bar and 3 guys are in my face and I turn around and punch a guy sitting down and minding his own business, how does that make sense?
    All it did was make my eyes water... and its killed people!??! ****, I'm tougher than I thought.

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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    All we have is a 1:05 minute snippet of video. Do you think that the confrontation lasted a little longer than that? Do you know for a fact what happened before this moment in time?
    What the hell are you talking about?





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    Re: UC Berkley: Police use excessive force

    For those of you who don't know, pepper spray is non-lethal, but that doesn't mean it can't kill:
    Reduced Breathing
    A natural incapacitating effect of pepper spray is the swelling of the linings of the nose and throat. This will make breathing difficult for anyone, but for those with preexisting respiratory problems, such as asthma, it can lead to more severe problems.

    Skin Irritation
    Chemical burns, blistering and sores can result from naturally and artificially derived pepper spray. This reaction is more likely in individuals who are allergic to oleoresin capsicum, or who have had allergic reaction to peppers in the past.

    Eye Irritation
    Pepper spray is usually sprayed at the face, particularly the eyes. It typically causes tearing, redness, pain and, in some cases, swelling and chemical burns around the eye area.

    Temporary Blindness
    Some people experience temporary blindness after being exposed to pepper spray. This typically lasts no more than 30 minutes to an hour, but it can be frightening. There have been no studies related to the long-term effects of temporary blindness resulting from exposure to pepper spray.

    Death
    Although it is rare, death can result from exposure to pepper spray. Deaths related to pepper spray are usually due to advanced age, preexisting heart conditions, or preexisting respiratory problems. Those with severe allergies to oleoresin capsicum may experience shock or become unable to breathe once exposed to pepper spray, leading to suffocation and death.
    That is why these methods, while effective, should be reserved as a last resort.
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