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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    Too bad the Stupid Committee never read it.
    And then Reagan realized that he cut taxes too much, and so raised them 11 times in order to curb the exploding deficits that he created, and that we're still paying interest on.

    It is blindingly, stupefyingly, confoundingly obvious that we have to both cut spending and raise revenue.

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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So we'll just replace them with more people who don't agree. Great.

    Your post seems to reveal your own bias too - you say the committee was supposed to give "money-saving ideas" but it was deficit-reduction ideas, which could include new revenue. Would you be willing to compromise on that? If not, you're just as guilty.
    Misterman, (with a Kathy Bates inflection) where did I say anything that revealed bias?? I called them all Village Idiots. What? You like Asshats better? A group of supposedly our brightest and best are put into a room and asked to come up with something....anything. And they're coming up with nothing?? I'd ROFL if it weren't so damn sad.

    Any partisanship you see in my post is coming from your 'magination, Mister.
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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And then Reagan realized that he cut taxes too much, and so raised them 11 times in order to curb the exploding deficits that he created, and that we're still paying interest on.

    It is blindingly, stupefyingly, confoundingly obvious that we have to both cut spending and raise revenue.
    I'm sorry. I didn't know the President could raise taxes. So what's Obama waiting for?
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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    The BBC article on this sans the political slant of most US media. They spell out exactly what happened.
    BBC News - 'Super-committee' on brink of US deficit failure

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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Why don't they just propose something? I mean, seriously, just meet halfway in the middle. This proposal isn't going to become law automatically, it still has to be voted on by both houses. It's seriously ridiculous that absolutely NOTHING is going to come out of these talks.
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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Even if they 'succeeded' they would have failed. Everyone keeps talking about their mission like it is some grand challenge and that accomplishing what their task was would somehow cause great rewards. They have been tasked to cut a few trillion from the DEFICIT spending over a 10 year period. Considering their annual rate of deficit the last three years has been what...1.6 trillion...they are TELLING us...that 15.5 trillion dollar debt? You aint seen nothin yet. We are handwringing about a few trillion in savings over 10 years while they will add (if current trends continue and without MASSIVE medicare/medicaid and other spending reforms) at least 10 trillion. But hey...at least it wont be 12 trillion.

    Go back to sleep folks...keep supporting both parties.

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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Go back to sleep folks...keep supporting both parties.
    Or wake up and quit supporting either party in favor of supporting individual legislators who will actually get the job done.

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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have said this before and I will continue to bring it up since it fits perfectly. I used to teach history out of a textbook that had a chapter titled THE FAILURE OF THE POLITICIANS. It was about the era of the 1850's and the build up to the Civil War. The nation was then split geographically and economically and even morally and ethically. Those divisions caused both sides to dig in their heels more and more with each arising crisis and each passing year until we know what the resolution was.

    More and more I feel that this is a parallel era. The ideological polarization of the parties is at its worst I have seen in my life time - and I am 62 and have been following politics since the sixth grade and the JFK election.
    Both parties have very very different views about government, the role it plays in our lives, taxation and class and income distribution problems.

    Until this ideological true believer mentality wanes and the practical pragmatists take over, we are doomed.
    So, who are the pratical pragmatists--nice redundancy BTW? Lemme guess, it's the folks who want to raise taxes! Right?
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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Why don't they just propose something? I mean, seriously, just meet halfway in the middle. This proposal isn't going to become law automatically, it still has to be voted on by both houses. It's seriously ridiculous that absolutely NOTHING is going to come out of these talks.
    That's why this was a big-honkin-waste-of-time, to begin with.

    BTW, how much did this bull**** cost? How many millions were wasted on this crap?
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    Re: CNN: Aides; 'Super Committee' likely to announce failure to reach debt deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, who are the pratical pragmatists--nice redundancy BTW? Lemme guess, it's the folks who want to raise taxes! Right?
    I do not know who the "pratical pragmatists" are. But the practical pragmatists would be the folks who subscribe to the radical extremist thought that.....and I know this is going to sound really off the wall and revolutionary.......... those who identify that there are two sides to a budget and BOTH must be dealt with.

    That includes raising needed revenues and cutting spending as part of the same program and package. I could have said either the words program or package but I thought you would appreciate the two together.
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