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    EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.

    Last night, critics claimed the EU was at odds with both science and common sense. Conservative MEP Roger Helmer said: “This is stupidity writ large.

    “The euro is burning, the EU is falling apart and yet here they are: highly-paid, highly-pensioned officials worrying about the obvious qualities of water and trying to deny us the right to say what is patently true.
    EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration - Telegraph


    Remind me a again why we should follow the European way of doing business? THREE YEARS to come up with this ****?

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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

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    EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration - Telegraph


    Remind me a again why we should follow the European way of doing business? THREE YEARS to come up with this ****?

    For reals?
    While I don't deny we need water, generally speaking unless we are so ill we are barely conscious, our bodies tell us when to drink it, so we do not need to be deliberately timing our consumption.

    I don't know. If the water manufacturers are exploiting neurotic people and parents fears for their children by making them believe they need to consciously drink water at particular times, water paid for and carried in plastic bottles to school or work which themselves pollute the atmosphere, I can see the EU point. We don't need more neurotic people. Unless we are going on a survival expedition, for most people their bodies will tell them when they need water.

    The tactic seems exploitative.
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    While I don't deny we need water, generally speaking unless we are so ill we are barely conscious, our bodies tell us when to drink it, so we do not need to be deliberately timing our consumption.

    I don't know. If the water manufacturers are exploiting neurotic people and parents fears for their children by making them believe they need to consciously drink water at particular times, water paid for and carried in plastic bottles to school or work which themselves pollute the atmosphere, I can see the EU point. We don't need more neurotic people. Unless we are going on a survival expedition, for most people their bodies will tell them when they need water.

    The tactic seems exploitative.
    But that's not the issue they're "combating"

    Honestly - I don't know what they're combating . . . but they sure have a good measure of ****ing stupid.
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    But that's not the issue they're "combating"

    Honestly - I don't know what they're combating . . . but they sure have a good measure of ****ing stupid.
    Well I was guessing at what they were combating. From a link in that article

    The NHS Choices website states: “Try to drink about six to eight glasses of water (or other fluids) a day to prevent dehydration."

    Many schools get so hung up on the advice that they insist that pupils bring a bottle of water to school with them.

    But Margaret McCartney, a Glasgow GP, said there was no firm evidence backing up claims that drinking so much was necessary to prevent dehydration.

    She said the recommendation was "not only nonsense, but thoroughly debunked nonsense".

    Writing an opinion piece in the BMJ, she said several studies showed no clear benefit of drinking large amounts of water.
    Advice to drink eight glasses of water daily 'nonsense' - Telegraph

    Usually when silly stories like this one come out, there is a different issue which it is relating to. My guess was that people were getting neurotic about drinking water - something I have never known any healthy person to have a problem being aware of knowing when they need and that this was being exploited by bottled water producers. If we did enough research we would find out but I am not motivated - as I say my guess is it is a bit different to what is being reported.
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    They need to drink 8 coca-colas a day. That'll be better. Oh, wait...
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    This advice (not a rule) was issued regarding a hypothetical (and possibly vexatious) request regarding labelling on bottled water. The response is in terms of a health claim which is medically unfounded. Plain water does not help dehydration.
    More to the point the advice was issued last February, so why the hysterical stupidity surrounding it now?
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    This advice (not a rule) was issued regarding a hypothetical (and possibly vexatious) request regarding labelling on bottled water. The response is in terms of a health claim which is medically unfounded. Plain water does not help dehydration.
    More to the point the advice was issued last February, so why the hysterical stupidity surrounding it now?
    Actually, large amounts of water alone are not good for you, as they tend to increase the amounts of electrolytes that are eliminated by the body. There is no doubt that you need water, but the title of the article by the Telegraph implies that the EU claims water itself does not help dehydration. To understand the context, you need to read the entire article, especially THIS paragraph:

    They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance.
    Not only is the statement that water companies applied for scientifically inaccurate, but taken to its extreme, significant amounts of water can actually kill you by causing the body to eliminate significant amounts of electrolytes.

    The EU took the right action in denying the right to print a deceptive statement on its bottles. That it took 3 years for the EU to come to this conclusion is what makes them idiots.
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    This is just stupid. nanny gov nonsense.

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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Well I was guessing at what they were combating. From a link in that article



    Advice to drink eight glasses of water daily 'nonsense' - Telegraph

    Usually when silly stories like this one come out, there is a different issue which it is relating to. My guess was that people were getting neurotic about drinking water - something I have never known any healthy person to have a problem being aware of knowing when they need and that this was being exploited by bottled water producers. If we did enough research we would find out but I am not motivated - as I say my guess is it is a bit different to what is being reported.
    But does that necessitate their reaction - potential fine or jail time for pointing out that water can stave off dehydration?

    I think their response is silly.

    I drink a surplus of water daily - and my intestinal ailment stays at bay - so I drink it regardless. Everyone has their own reasons. During the summer when dehydration is a more potential hazard I also eat salty foods like nuts while doing yard work. Watch them spite that next.
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    Re: EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

    That's the point. Salts and glucose, vital for rehydration, are not present in bottled water.
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