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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

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    The only excuse any employee could possibly have in this situation is that he/she wasn't able to visit because of a heavy caseload. That's it. Period. Compassion and dedication can't be bought. Blowing the whistle on bad situations is exactly what these people are entrusted to do. No amount of money can turn assholes into caring human beings.
    I don't disagree with you. An increase in salary wouldn't turn an evil person good. But just maybe a better salary would attract more good people and the state wouldn't have to choose between bad and worse people.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

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    I don't disagree with you. An increase in salary wouldn't turn an evil person good. But just maybe a better salary would attract more good people and the state wouldn't have to choose between bad and worse people.
    the average social worker in Alabama makes $57K a year. not bad for someone with a non-technical degree

    in this case, the "supervisor" who was supposed to be checking up on the nurse every 30-60 days...had they lived in Alabama, they would be making $99K/yr that's more than many people with advanced degrees
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

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    the average social worker in Alabama makes $57K a year. not bad for someone with a non-technical degree

    in this case, the "supervisor" who was supposed to be checking up on the nurse every 30-60 days...had they lived in Alabama, they would be making $99K/yr that's more than many people with advanced degrees
    I've read something that disputes the above numbers.

    Social Worker Salary 2011|Average Social Worker Salary 2011

    How to Determine Social Worker Salary?
    There is no conventional wage for a social employee that is set formerly. There are plenty of aspects that decide on social worker salary, like the length of service, type of employment, experience, education level and location of work.

    The length of Service—For those social workers who have labored for five to nine years, the yearly social worker salary may be at a range of Thirty-five to Forty-five thousand US dollars. While for those who have actually taken part in social work programs for ten to nineteen years, the salary comes at about Forty to Forty-five thousand US dollars.

    Type of Employment—Suppose a social worker is admitted by non-profit companies, he or she will get a yearly income at Twenty-seven to Thirty-six thousand US dollars; suppose a worker for state enterprise or federal government agencies, the annual amount of pay is appropriately Twenty-eight to Forty-four thousand US dollars.

    Experience—One’s experience is also taken into a social workers salary account. Don’t take granted that a fresh graduate will receive the same amount of salary as a social worker for several years. The long period of working experience, the more the salary is.

    Location—The social worker salary differs from one state to another. Based on investigation, New York and California are likely to receive the highest social worker salary, ranging from between Twenty-seven to Fifty-five thousand US dollars.
    Social Worker Salary

    Average Salary - $43,000

    The social workers in this category provide social services as well as assistance to children and also their families to improve their living conditions as well and the children’s academic performance. Their duties range from helping single parents, and arranging adoptions to addressing issues such as teenage pregnancy and finding foster homes for neglected or abused children. The average social worker salary in this category is $43,000, though it’s dependent on the type of employer, level of education as well as the state where one is working.

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    The level of education also affects the level of income for social workers. There are several levels of qualifications, such as Master’s Degree in Social Work (MSW) and Doctoral Degree in Social Work (DSW or PHD). For those having just a Bachelor’s Degree, the average salary is $40,000. For social workers with a Master’s Degree (MSW), the average salary is $63,000 and the average social worker salary for Doctorate holders is $70,000.

    Social Worker Salary Based on Location

    From one state to another, social worker salary happens to be different. New York and California have the highest pay, starting from $58,000 onwards.

    Social Worker Salary Based on Level of Experience and Position in an Organization

    Just like any other career, experience plays a great role to determine the level of income for social workers. A graduate who is just starting his or her career cannot earn a higher salary than somebody who has been in the field for more than 10years. The average social worker salary for starters is $25,000, and then increases as ones years of experience increases. Also, a person’s position in an organization will determine their income. For example, a supervising social worker cannot earn the same as his or her juniors!
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I've read something that disputes the above numbers.

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    as I said, in Alabama...

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    Average Social Worker salaries for job postings in Alabama are 7% higher than average Social Worker salaries for job postings nationwide.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    FWIW, the avg social worker salary in Ohio is $50K. a supervisor makes $87K.

    you can't excuse these 4 because of low salary.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

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    FWIW, the avg social worker salary in Ohio is $50K. a supervisor makes $87K.

    you can't excuse these 4 because of low salary.
    The number of years it takes to get to that average is no joke. Social workers are starting at $24k. Do you think that'll attract the best candidates?

    What makes you think I'm excusing them? Seriously... what about my previous posts leads you to say that?
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    A perspective from a retired child protective social worker: It can be extremely difficult to figure out if emaciation and loss of muscle mass in a severely disabled child is the result of the disability or neglect. If medical records indicate no anemia, electrolyte imbalance or other indicators of malnourishment exists, the finding regarding child neglect is normally 'unfounded report'. Normally CPS would order a complete physical to be done to assess the cause of an extremely underweight child. If this procedure was not followed or the caseworker failed to even do the assessment / investigation, hang him/her from the highest tree.

    That said, all the nurses in this situation should lose both their license and freedom. They were in a unique position to know that this child was not receiving adequate nutrition and care. Also, their presence in the home on a daily basis would have influenced the CPS worker's assessment as medical personnel are required to report abuse and neglect. Same with children in daycare and school. An independent adult observer who is legally required to report abuse / neglect and sees the child regularly often makes the difference in the decision between removing a child from the home or leaving the child in the home and working to rectify borderline abuse/neglect. Removing children is detrimental to their emotional well-being and the decision is "will removing them do more harm than good?"

    If the mother has normal intelligence, she too is culpable. The mother may have functional difficulties of her own that lead to her not questioning the nurses assessment that all was well with her child.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    The number of years it takes to get to that average is no joke. Social workers are starting at $24k. Do you think that'll attract the best candidates?

    What makes you think I'm excusing them? Seriously... what about my previous posts leads you to say that?

    "you" in general, not You specifically. but you do seem to be arguing the side of those who actually did excuse them.


    again, none of the 4 involved were entry level, brand news employees. they were not making $24K

    and also, If I can find salary figures with a 2 second google search, surely someone looking into social work as a career could do the same.

    bottom line, "you" cannot use the alleged "low" pay for social workers to use this lack of responsibilty
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    "you" in general, not You specifically. but you do seem to be arguing the side of those who actually did excuse them.


    again, none of the 4 involved were entry level, brand news employees. they were not making $24K

    and also, If I can find salary figures with a 2 second google search, surely someone looking into social work as a career could do the same.

    bottom line, "you" cannot use the alleged "low" pay for social workers to use this lack of responsibilty
    I'll also point out that these "salary averages" sites are historically inaccurate. Average salaries for public employees are not to be trusted.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'll also point out that these "salary averages" sites are historically inaccurate. Average salaries for public employees are not to be trusted.
    If you want to be rich, be a doctor or lawyer...not a social worker
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