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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That made me sick to my stomach. 28 lbs - my 5 year old weighs more than that. I'm nauseated. Wow. And people claim our government sticks its nose in our business too damn much but yet tragedies like this still happen.
    Government does stick it's nose into our business too damn much. Government sticking its nose where it don't belong will not prevent tragedies. Don't equate the two.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I accept your challenge.

    How did the free market fail to prevent this from happening?

    This is very tragic.
    Considering this was the responsibility of the state of Ohio, I will be interested in how you will twist this around to make it the free markets fault.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Considering this was the responsibility of the state of Ohio, I will be interested in how you will twist this around to make it the free markets fault.
    why would anyone feel the neeed to do that? you people are loony. the mother and the nurses killed this kid, and it deosn't mean the entire state of ohio's system is broken, anymore than a cop shooting an unarmed person means our law enforcement system is broken.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    why would anyone feel the neeed to do that? you people are loony. the mother and the nurses killed this kid, and it deosn't mean the entire state of ohio's system is broken, anymore than a cop shooting an unarmed person means our law enforcement system is broken.
    I'm not the one who tried to blame the free market, so I think your "looney" comment is misdirected.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The only possible debate could be a discussion about how 3 employees of the state of Ohio, specifically charged with protecting the welfare of this child, could have failed so negligently. It probably cost taxpayers $100,000 a year (WAG) to starve this poor girl to death.

    Proves to me that Ohio's entire child welfare system is broken. Three employees of the state.
    I am not excusing their actions, but you could probably look towards their salary and work conditions. Try being a social worker for a few months and you'll see what I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not the one who tried to blame the free market, so I think your "looney" comment is misdirected.
    You can't even take partisanship out of this thread? They were joking about the free market. Cmon, Grim. I feel like I have to explain the thread to you every time.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I am not excusing their actions, but you could probably look towards their salary and work conditions. Try being a social worker for a few months and you'll see what I mean.

    sorry, they chose to be social workers (unless, of course, they were too dumb to do anything else ) they knew the pay was low and the hours were long before they started. That is no excuse for not doing their job.
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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, they chose to be social workers (unless, of course, they were too dumb to do anything else ) they knew the pay was low and the hours were long before they started. That is no excuse for not doing their job.
    i agree with you, except the part about being too dumb to do anything else. my niece was an honors student who chose social work.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, they chose to be social workers (unless, of course, they were too dumb to do anything else ) they knew the pay was low and the hours were long before they started. That is no excuse for not doing their job.
    You people never cease to amaze me. By your logic, there should be no social workers because everyone should aspire to make more money and have less stressful jobs (you know, unless they are dumb). And again, I never said it is a valid excuse to not do your job, but it is only logical (and proven) that unhappy, under-appreciated, and underpaid workers do not perform as well as those who are compensated appropriately in those areas.

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    Re: Ohio Mom Charged in Death of 28-Pound Teen Daughter

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not the one who tried to blame the free market, so I think your "looney" comment is misdirected.
    who did? and it's loony, not looney!

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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