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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Like almost every state, they had problems after the recession due to a dramatic loss of revenue coupled with a rise in the need for services.
    That's not quite the entire reason, but for sake of argument. Fine. They lost a lot of revenue and were paying out more - resulting in a 3.x billion dollar budget. They had to balance it. The best way to balance it is to make cuts in the greatest percentage of their overall spending.

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Kinda makes one wonder how the states fiscal bureau (the badgers answer to the CBO)came to the conclusion that wiconsin didn’t need austerity measures eh?
    I am not positive of what you are speaking of, but I am guessing it's probably related to the already debunked meme that made its way around dem circles a while ago.

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

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    That's not quite the entire reason, but for sake of argument. Fine. They lost a lot of revenue and were paying out more - resulting in a 3.x billion dollar budget. They had to balance it. The best way to balance it is to make cuts in the greatest percentage of their overall spending.
    The best way to cut it was to NOT cut taxes when you know you have a budget shortfall. Spending cuts were agreed to by the unions. There is no sound financial reason to permanently cut off bargaining rights in response to a temporary problem. That ... was a pure political power grab.

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

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    The best way to cut it was to NOT cut taxes when you know you have a budget shortfall. Spending cuts were agreed to by the unions. There is no sound financial reason to permanently cut off bargaining rights in response to a temporary problem. That ... was a pure political power grab.
    Someone posted a while ago why just agreeing to spending cuts was a bad idea. I also posted a while ago, that IMO, the agreement to contribute more was just a smoke screen so people like you could repeat it ad nauseum and provided evidence that many unions won't agree to contributions in order to save jobs. Lastly, it wasn't a temporary problem. The problem with funding of the pensions was real and long term. The recession just brought about that particular crisis faster.

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

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    That's not quite the entire reason, but for sake of argument. Fine. They lost a lot of revenue and were paying out more - resulting in a 3.x billion dollar budget. They had to balance it. The best way to balance it is to make cuts in the greatest percentage of their overall spending.
    And taking collective bargaining away from state workers was the path to follow for fiscal nirvana then?

    We can go on with this bull**** forever, but you and I know the truth, itís a union busting tactic and this Nixon looking wannabe overstepped his hand,now heís paying the price; the same price as the lame in the buckeye.But the buckeye lame cant get his ass recalled...for now.
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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

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    And taking collective bargaining away from state workers was the path to follow for fiscal nirvana then?

    We can go on with this bull**** forever, but you and I know the truth, it’s a union busting tactic and this Nixon looking wannabe overstepped his hand,now he’s paying the price; the same price as the lame in the buckeye.But the buckeye lame cant get his ass recalled...for now.
    Act10 was a way to reduce spending on WI's greatest budgetary item and allow the state to send a lot less money to the local's without affecting education spending too much, since the locals would have to pay less in teacher compensation and could get away from the greatly overpriced union's health care plan (WEAC).

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Act10 was a way to reduce spending on WI's greatest budgetary item and allow the state to send a lot less money to the local's without affecting education spending too much, since the locals would have to pay less in teacher compensation and could get away from the greatly overpriced union's health care plan (WEAC).
    If overpriced union's health care plan were the case, then why did walker exempt the public safety officer unions?

    They have the highest salaries and benneys.how about the tax breaks the koch bros lackey passed soon after his perceived crowning as the badger king.
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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Statues of gold should be built in his honor.
    That would be a strange way to save money.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    The thing that bugs me about Walker is that the teachers had made the concessions he asked for, but it wasn't good enough. He had to fulfill some sick Con fantasy about busting a Union. He had to get everything his way or get nothing.


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    Re: New poll shows majority support Walker recall

    QUOTE buck

    Someone posted a while ago why just agreeing to spending cuts was a bad idea.
    Why would this be a bad idea?

    I also posted a while ago, that IMO, the agreement to contribute more was just a smoke screen so people like you could repeat it ad nauseum and provided evidence that many unions won't agree to contributions in order to save jobs.
    Its always nice when you have an opinion as long as you don't cite it as fact.


    Lastly, it wasn't a temporary problem.
    According to the states "fiscal bureau" they concluded that Wisconsin isnít even in need of austerity measures,as a matter of fact they said that the badger could conclude the fiscal year with a surplus. Are you sure this isn't just another of your opinions?

    The problem with funding of the pensions was real and long term.
    No is wasn't.Hhmm...more opinions eh?


    The recession just brought about that particular crisis faster.
    NAH,.Time for my opinion..union busting.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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