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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

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    Sky News: Obama addresses federal parliament

    Part of Obama's address to our Members in Parliament.



    he also said (referring to Australians)



    Yes. Yes we have. So perhaps he can explain to us Loyal Aussies why he is so willing to use us knowing full well the tensions it will create in this provocative move.
    You think the Chinese are going to attack you?

    I do think I understand your feeling, though. To be honest, it's inconceivable that the U.S. would allow another country -- ANY other country -- to establish a military base on U.S. soil. Americans would go nuts.

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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    Why do we need yet another military base paid for by the federal MasterCard? Why in Australia?

    and, how would we feel about Chinese military bases in say for example, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, and Canada? Put the shoe on the other foot and see how it feels.
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You think the Chinese are going to attack you?

    I do think I understand your feeling, though. To be honest, it's inconceivable that the U.S. would allow another country -- ANY other country -- to establish a military base on U.S. soil. Americans would go nuts.
    Australians are for the most part very easy to get along with. We have a good relationship with our American friends and i would hope we continue to do so. No doubt the Marines will be welcomed and embraced by the Australian Public, afterall it's not their decision to be based here but i can assure you there are Australians who are very unhappy with the US and Australian Governments at the moment.

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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

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    Got any proof of that?

    From what I can tell China has every right to be nervous about the US putting troops in Australia as the US has been busy creating an Asian NATO to confront China (Southeast Asia: U.S. Completing Asian NATO To Confront China) and last year after the South Korean Cheonan incident to put the USS George Washington super carrier in China's EEZ (USS George Washington Visit Poses A Dilemma For China). In addition to this, there have been protests to stop the creation of another South Korean naval base for the US (US to use S. Korean base to project power against China? — RT) which has the capacity to hold "20 large destroyers, two aircraft carriers, two subs and [will] be outfitted with the Aegis ballistic missile defense system" in addition to this, the naval base will be "less than 300 miles away from the Chinese mainland." Thus, China has every right to be worried.
    If the Chinese and their allies weren't so provocative with both their words and deeds, it wouldn't be necessary. Most of the states in the region are very concerned, and rightly so, with the actions of China's government. Even traditional ally Burma has shown some trepidation regarding China of late. China has territorial disputes with nearly everyone one of its neighbors, some of them with absolutely no basis in law and common sense whatsoever. China's rhetoric of late, especially in both the East China Sea and the South China Sea demands action on the part of the other states in the region. Most of them WANT U.S. presense due to their fears of China.
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

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    Many Australians are not happy about this. There has been no public discussion/input preceeding this announcement. Why would any sovereign country in times of peace allow another country’s military unit to be stationed on their own soil?
    Ummmm.... you make a statement like this and we expect to take you seriously? You obviously know little of what has been going on around the world the past few decades...
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    Australia has been worried about China for decades. They have been trying to increase population, and they have the natural resources to sustain such growth. Australia has flourished economically while the most of the rest of the "civilized" world has struggled the last 5 years. The relationship is good for the US and for AU.
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Ummmm.... you make a statement like this and we expect to take you seriously?
    I don't give a rats ass if you take me seriously or not......I'm expressing how i and many other Australians feel.
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    How many Americans here would allow another Country to establish a military base on US soil and be happy about it?

    This is an unnecessary provocation. Australia is one of the few nations that undeniably stand shoulder to shoulder with America come hell or high water. Obama knows that and he's using that and us to his advantage. Who the hell does he think he is? Americas version of Crocodile Dundee?
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    Re: China uneasy over US troop deal in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    How many Americans here would allow another Country to establish a military base on US soil and be happy about it?
    Very few.

    This is an unnecessary provocation. Australia is one of the few nations that undeniably stand shoulder to shoulder with America come hell or high water. Obama knows that and he's using that and us to his advantage. Who the hell does he think he is? Americas version of Crocodile Dundee?
    I can see where McCain might have done the very same thing IMO. As you point out though, it's not something we would accept so I'm not sure why we think it's such a great thing for others to accept. (not all of us do)

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