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    Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Opponents of Ohio's new election law have fallen short in their effort to get a ballot repeal question before voters next fall, but they have another 10 days to submit more signatures, the state's top election official said Monday.
    The bad news? Signatures against Kacish's voter suppression law are a little over 9,000 short. The good news? The good guys have another ten days to turn in signatures, and guess what? They already have more than 150,000 more to turn in, and will probably be turning in around 200,000 more by the time the deadline arrives. Which means that implementation of the voter suppression law will be blocked until the November 2012 election, at which time it will be soundly defeated, as was the union busting law.

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    Re: Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    Yet another reason Kasich is one of the least popular governors in the nation.

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    Re: Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The bad news? Signatures against Kacish's voter suppression law are a little over 9,000 short. The good news? The good guys have another ten days to turn in signatures, and guess what? They already have more than 150,000 more to turn in, and will probably be turning in around 200,000 more by the time the deadline arrives. Which means that implementation of the voter suppression law will be blocked until the November 2012 election, at which time it will be soundly defeated, as was the union busting law.

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    Dont worry, Kasich and his cohorts will find fault in just enough of the signatures that there wont be enough... after we are talking about voter suppression.
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    Re: Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The bad news? Signatures against Kacish's voter suppression law are a little over 9,000 short. The good news? The good guys have another ten days to turn in signatures, and guess what? They already have more than 150,000 more to turn in, and will probably be turning in around 200,000 more by the time the deadline arrives. Which means that implementation of the voter suppression law will be blocked until the November 2012 election, at which time it will be soundly defeated, as was the union busting law.

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    What exactly is Ohio's new election law in plain English? Is it a law that requires a government issued photo ID to vote,which those who can not afford one get a free one? I am not sure I see what there is to be outraged about. Is that the election law you are talking about or is there some other election law?What is mentioned in your article hardly sounds like a big deal.



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    Re: Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What exactly is Ohio's new election law in plain English? Is it a law that requires a government issued photo ID to vote,which those who can not afford one get a free one? I am not sure I see what there is to be outraged about. Is that the election law you are talking about or is there some other election law?What is mentioned in your article hardly sounds like a big deal.



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    The outrage is based on the fact that these laws are a clear attempt to disenfranchise lower income voters who tend to vote for Democrats. Why else would Republicans constantly try to get these things passed, when there is absolutely no evidence of any real voter fraud in the U.S.?

    This is a description of the law in question:

    "The law prohibits counties from mailing out unsolicited absentee ballot applications, closes the "golden week" window when people can register to vote and cast a ballot on the same day, and reduces the number of days voters can vote in person at a county elections board. The law does not include a photo identification requirement -- the centerpiece of legislation that is still pending in the Senate."

    New Ohio elections law put on hold after groups deliver petitions to put issue on ballot | cleveland.com

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    Re: Ohio's election law foes fall short on signatures

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The outrage is based on the fact that these laws are a clear attempt to disenfranchise lower income voters who tend to vote for Democrats.
    The only ones making those claims are democrats who think that anyone should be able to vote without first proving who they are. The scare mongering by democrats only fools idiots into thinking this is an attempt to disenfranchise voters. There is nothing wrong with making people prove who they say they are when they go vote.

    Why else would Republicans constantly try to get these things passed, when there is absolutely no evidence of any real voter fraud in the U.S.?
    Voting is anonymous. So how would you prove that fraud even occurred? This type of system means that voters should have to prove who they are when they register to vote and when they go vote. You could call every person that voted and compare the results, but that is something that might not be possible in large cities.



    "The law prohibits counties from mailing out unsolicited absentee ballot applications,
    There is nothing wrong with that. Why should someone be sent something if they didn't solicit it? I think the only people who should be allowed to vote by mail( and that is after the mail carrier checked the ID and made the person sign for the ballot )are crippled bed ridden adults who are unable to go to a polling place. Why should a perfectly healthy adult be allowed to vote by mail when they can walk,take a bus or drive to a polling place?

    closes the "golden week" window when people can register to vote and cast a ballot on the same day,
    The only way someone should be allowed to vote the same day they register is if the people person registering can be verified that they are who they say they are.

    and reduces the number of days voters can vote in person at a county elections board.
    The only people this will disenfranchise are those too lazy to pay attention to what's going on.
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