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    again public opinion and protest is denied. the fascist hits again.

    do the population at large still have a right to protest and be heard in the US?
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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Crackdown on OWS camps coordinated by US city mayors — RT

    again public opinion and protest is denied. the fascist hits again.

    do the population at large still have a right to protest and be heard in the US?
    So long as the use of that right doesn't result in other people's rights being violated, yes.

    A mayors first priority is to the citizens that voted him/her mayor. Don't complain about the mayor, complain about all the "99%" actually living and trying to work in these towns petitioning the mayor to have these protesters removed.

    That's called democracy.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Crackdown on OWS camps coordinated by US city mayors RT

    again public opinion and protest is denied. the fascist hits again.

    do the population at large still have a right to protest and be heard in the US?
    No one is being denied their right to protest.What is being denied is their ability to stay at a area for as long as they like. These people can come back, these people can go somewhere else to protest,and these people can go on the side walks to protest. Other people may want to use those parks,other people may want to protest in those parks,cities may have to clean those areas up, cities may have public works project going on in and around those parks.The first amendment does not give you a right to protest anywhere you want for as log as you want just like the 2nd amendment does not give me the right to shoot my firearm off at 3AM for no reason or to randomly shoot people for what ever reason I feel like. I can not walk into a bank and say this is a stick up with a firearm and then tell the judge I was exercising my first amendment rights in conjunction with my 2nd amendment rights.
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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Wonder how much bones or promises corporate lobbyists threw at them?


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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    That's called democracy.
    We do not live in a pure democracy, in fact that's stupid. That is nothing more than mob rule. In our Republic, the whim of the majority may not overrule the rights of the minority.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We do not live in a pure democracy, in fact that's stupid. That is nothing more than mob rule. In our Republic, the whim of the majority may not overrule the rights of the minority.
    Correct. But if the mayor wants to get re-elected, he/she is going to do what the majority wants them to do. Which makes THOSE people his/her first priority.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Correct. But if the mayor wants to get re-elected, he/she is going to do what the majority wants them to do. Which makes THOSE people his/her first priority.
    He/she can try; but he/she is limited in what powers they can use and what actions they can take against the People. Mob rule is not a good thing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No one is being denied their right to protest.What is being denied is their ability to stay at a area for as long as they like. These people can come back, these people can go somewhere else to protest,and these people can go on the side walks to protest. Other people may want to use those parks,other people may want to protest in those parks,cities may have to clean those areas up, cities may have public works project going on in and around those parks.The first amendment does not give you a right to protest anywhere you want for as log as you want just like the 2nd amendment does not give me the right to shoot my firearm off at 3AM for no reason or to randomly shoot people for what ever reason I feel like. I can not walk into a bank and say this is a stick up with a firearm and then tell the judge I was exercising my first amendment rights in conjunction with my 2nd amendment rights.
    I feel everytime there is a protest in the US, the police is there cracking down on it.

    also having to need a permission to proteat goes against the logic of protesting. we are all being brainwashed to think the wrong things, that having to apply to protest makes sense.

    you are all owned.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I feel everytime there is a protest in the US, the police is there cracking down on it.
    It's what they do. It is a bit unfortunate that we do seem to use so much police force against assembly and protest; but it's not isolated to OWS. In general, the government is not a fan of assembly and protest and do their best to minimize its effects. That's how we get "Free Speech Zones" at the political conventions. Absolutely sickening if you ask me. I think at the last RNC, they had pre-arrested people.

    Land of the Free...but for how much longer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    also having to need a permission to proteat goes against the logic of protesting. we are all being brainwashed to think the wrong things, that having to apply to protest makes sense.
    I feel this way about ALL rights. Be it gun, assembly, speech, etc. A right does not require permission. A permit is permission.

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    you are all owned.
    By the same group that owns everyone else.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: crackdown on "OWS" capms coordinated by US mayors

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I feel everytime there is a protest in the US, the police is there cracking down on it.
    They only time they crack down on the protests is if they get out of hand. This is why the police did not crack down on the republicans when they have their tea party protests. Those protests did not get out of hand.

    also having to need a permission to proteat goes against the logic of protesting. we are all being brainwashed to think the wrong things, that having to apply to protest makes sense.
    The permit is not for the protest,the permit it is permission to use the space for the protest. Because the parks are for everybody not just protesters, streets are for the motor vehicles to drive on not just so people can protest on them.

    I do not know about new york but in my state you can protest all you want without a permit as long as you stick to doing it on your own person property or you stick to the side walks and do not block other people. If you want to protest on private property then you need permission from the owner.If you want to protest in a park then you need permit from the city. Heck I do not think you even need a permit to protest in the park, you just need a permit to camp out in the park.

    you are all owned.
    So you agree that I should not need a permit to exercise my 2nd amendment rights?
    Last edited by jamesrage; 11-15-11 at 04:14 PM.
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