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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    The park has been re-opened.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

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    That is not what I asked. Are the police restricted from enforcing the law because some people want to assemble and break laws?

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    OWS Protesters Lose Bid to Return to NYC Park

    “The movants have not demonstrated that they have a First Amendment right to remain in Zuccotti Park along with their tents, structures, generators and other installations to the exclusion of the owners' reasonable rights and duties to maintain Zuccotti Park,” New York State Supreme Court Justice Michael Stallman wrote in a ruling issued today.

    “The court recognized the importance of balancing public safety with the protesters’ claim that building tents constitutes speech,” said Sheryl Neufeld, senior counsel with the New York City Law Department, in an e-mailed statement. “Conditions at the park had deteriorated to the point that serious concerns about crime, fire hazards and public health needed to be addressed.”

    Neufeld said protesters will be allowed to return without tents, tarps and sleeping bags. The park was reopened late this afternoon.

    The judge ruled that the owner of the park has the “right to adopt reasonable rules that permit it to maintain a clean, safe, publicly accessible space.” He added that “even protected speech isn’t equally permissible in all places and at all times.”
    “The unsafe and unsanitary conditions and the substantial threat to public safety as determined by the police and fire departments” will return if the protesters take over the park as before, Cas Holloway, the city’s deputy mayor for operations, said in court papers.

    “The whole purpose of the plaza is for it to be available to the general public for their use,” Spinola said. “If a park is no longer available because of one particular group, then there would be a violation taking place.”
    OWS Protesters Lose Bid to Return to NYC Park - Bloomberg

    Couldn't agree more with this ruling. Protest all you want, but do it within the confines of the law and don't threaten the health and safety of the surrounding public. The notion of tents being "an expression of speech protected under the First Amendment" is absurd to me and a complete copout to try and circumvent the rules set forth by the city and the owners.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are they restricted from upholding the law as it exists at the moment, because some crack pots want to misinterpret the constitution?

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    When the Civil Rights movement was at it's peak, police used similar tactics to disperse those protesters (trespassing, curfews, disrupting peace, etc). Yes the police have a right to uphold the law, but they are not ABSOLUTELY RIGHT all the time.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The police are part of government, the government is restricted in the forms and degrees of force it may use against our rights.
    Really? By what is the government restricted?

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clearing protest

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    After Mommy Bloomberg cleans up after them.

    I wonder if he'll buy 'em 'Happy Meals' too?
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Really? By what is the government restricted?

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    By the Constitution, and a higher court agreed. Today, the National Lawyers Guild went to court and got an injunction against the police department. The occupiers are back.

    BTW, contrast the police in New York with the Police in Houston, Texas, which is legendary for knocking heads, when they need to be knocked. The Houston Police Department went to Tranquility Park, where occupy Houston is camping out. They inspected the premises, found some violations, told the occupiers what they needed to do to correct the violations, and wished them well.

    People up north love to badmouth Texas, but here in Houston, the police are setting a much better example than the ones in New York. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, 'ya damn Yankees.
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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clearing protest

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    I think it's time for them to shutup and go back to work.
    Why go back to work (as if these morons had a job to begin with) when you can cajole the government in to giving it out for free.

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The police are part of government, the government is restricted in the forms and degrees of force it may use against our rights.
    Ok, do the protesters rights supersede the rights of others not involved in the protest to go about their day, get to work, conduct business, live in their homes un-accosted, etc?

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    Re: Occupy Wall Street: New York police clear Zuccotti Park

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    live in their homes un-accosted
    Just wondering champ, who's been accosted in their home?

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