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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm with you on that. I think that legislators should have to put their investments in a blind trust as long as they are in office.
    you are more generous than I am... i would disallow investment for politicians entirely.

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Speaking of hyperpartisan, did we all forget that the same article made exactly the same kinds of accusations against the current House speaker, John Boehner, and Republican Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama?

    Would you agree that Boehner should be drummed out of the House?
    Yes. I believe we need a complete turnover.

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry, replying to Karl View Post
    California Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the former house speaker, and her husband invested in eight initial public stock offerings in 2008. The Pelosi’s, for example, bought 5,000 shares in VISA at $44 a share, while a bill that could have hurt the company was under review in the House. The stock jumped to $64 a share–an increase in value for Pelosi of $100,000.

    Would most people have jumped on the initial offering before anyone else could get it for something like Visa? I'm sure they would. If they had while having inside information about how a bill in Congress would be voted on, would they have been charged with insider trading if they didn't have a (R) or (D) after their name? I bet they would.

    Pelosi, Boehner, Bachus, Hastert, Other Congressional Reps Traded Stock On Inside Tips, But It’s All Legal (!?!) | David Webb

    Do you think she would have bought in if she knew the bill would go against Visa? Do you think the offer to jump in before anyone not influential was able to had anything to do with her standing in Congress?
    Your argument is constructed of coincidence and conjecture, held together with nails of occasionally irrational suspicion.

    Let me know if you find a smoking gun -- that isn't loaded with blanks

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Your argument is constructed of coincidence and conjecture, held together with nails of occasionally irrational suspicion.

    Let me know if you find a smoking gun -- that isn't loaded with blanks


    So your rebuttal is dismissal, refusal to critically think, and ideologically dismantlement of anything that goes after the Bourgeois skirting of law that anyone else has to live by. How is that even close to an honest argument?

    Let us know when you want to stop carrying the putrid water of Socialism.


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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So your rebuttal is dismissal, refusal to critically think, and ideologically dismantlement of anything that goes after the Bourgeois skirting of law that anyone else has to live by. How is that even close to an honest argument?

    Let us know when you want to stop carrying the putrid water of Socialism.
    The ideological refusal to critically think is clearly all yours.

    Do you think Pelosi was guilty of all the previous charges levied against her, which have been proven to be bogus? (1. the big jet, 2. the booze for the big jet, and 3. the joyriding relatives on the big jet.)

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The ideological refusal to critically think is clearly all yours.

    Do you think Pelosi was guilty of all the previous charges levied against her, which have been proven to be bogus? (1. the big jet, 2. the booze for the big jet, and 3. the joyriding relatives on the big jet.)

    Pelosi's Speaker Shuttle: The Inside Story - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    CBS outlines it pretty good, and although Pelosi didn't demand a 757 size jet, she did fly colleagues and friends, and family back and forth at tax payer expense to some extent. Whether or not this is a failing of both sides of the isle is not clear, however, this isn't about whether or not she had a jet as speaker, or if she treats our money like it is her personal expense account or not, she clearly does. It is about her using inside information on legislation, to game the stock market and enrich herself, which if not legally problematic at the moment, it is at least a moral failing that shows what kind of person she is.

    And if you think I say this on in her actions, I don't Republicans that do this should be in jail right next to her...


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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac, replying to Karl View Post
    [...] It is about her using inside information on legislation, to game the stock market and enrich herself [...]
    A critical thinker would ask: Where your evidence?

    An ideologue would say:

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [...] this isn't about whether or not she [...] treats our money like it is her personal expense account or not, she clearly does.

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    ^ Just curious if either of you feel the same about Republican congress people who own stock, or is it just your Democrat enemies?
    Maggie said, "no sitting congressman". Your question was answered before you asked it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    you can lead a horse to water... but ya can't make him drink.

    that sums it all up...

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    Re: Pelosi fires back at '60 Minutes' report on 'soft corruption'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    She had to fire back something -- she looked like an absolute idiot on 60 Minutes. Buncha' crooks. No sitting congressman should be allowed to own individual stocks -- and no one in their immediate family. Period. Want to invest? Buy the Total Market Index.
    I wonder why we don't hear a peep out of the occu-tards about this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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