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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, um no they aren't.

    They are not even a fraction of 1% of the public.


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    Even if they were less than 1% of the public that still makes them the public...


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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wrong. It has already been shown that the police gave an order to disburse, and were not clashing, when the protesters started the violence with bottle and rock throwing, so your disinformation will not work.

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    No it hasnt. The only "proof" you have is that Lawrence o Donnell interview..


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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Ghandi and MLK's civil disobedience didn't involve throwing rocks and bottles and motolov cocktails at police.
    I wasnt talking on that point. I was talking on the point that just because you disobey a law such as standing in front of the police lines and being told to disperse does not make you violent...


    In fact... Ghandi's method of civil disobedience included not even talking hateful towards the police in performance of their duties, or holding them with ill contempt in any way.
    Good for Ghandi..

    As for the "After police came in and used brute force?" comment...

    You are doing it again.........

    Uhh no im not...
    In a matter of fact you have been the one plugging your ears. Remember that video when the guy was walking in front of the police filming and asking if this distance was ok and then they just shot him with a rubber bullet?
    Your response to that: "Well we dont know what he did before"...
    Seriously would a guy that just commented a crime really be so dumb to stand right in front of the police asking if this distance was an ok distance to film them?


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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Even if they were less than 1% of the public that still makes them the public...

    Still not allowed to exercise their right at the expense of others that don't agree with their message.

    No it hasnt. The only "proof" you have is that Lawrence o Donnell interview..
    yeah, the interview of a protester on the scene that saw what transpired first hand...Your denial is deep dude.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhh no im not...
    In a matter of fact you have been the one plugging your ears. Remember that video when the guy was walking in front of the police filming and asking if this distance was ok and then they just shot him with a rubber bullet?
    Your response to that: "Well we dont know what he did before"...
    Seriously would a guy that just commented a crime really be so dumb to stand right in front of the police asking if this distance was an ok distance to film them?
    That was them saying no.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Seriously would a guy that just commented a crime really be so dumb to stand right in front of the police asking if this distance was an ok distance to film them?
    Yes.
    People say and do anything they can to try to get the police to react in a way that shows them in a negative light.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Still not allowed to exercise their right at the expense of others that don't agree with their message.
    How are they exercising their rights at the expense of others?



    yeah, the interview of a protester on the scene that saw what transpired first hand...Your denial is deep dude.

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    No its not denial... If their is proof that this happened, and their are cameras everywhere please show that video..
    You want a video that the police acted brutal first, giving right for the protesters to try to protect themselves?


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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes.
    People say and do anything they can to try to get the police to react in a way that shows them in a negative light.
    Are you claiming that he did something wrong before the video was shot?


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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Are you claiming that he did something wrong before the video was shot?
    Im claiming we have no way of knowing anything except that his camera was facing a line of officers and one of them shot him with a less than lethal munition.

    We don't know what was in his other hand.... what was behind him, what he had done previously, what he may have been about to do....

    We also dont know why he was the only person in the street standing in front of a crowd control line....

    Alot of unknown variables in that video that prevent me from making a judgement upon the matter in either direction.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    News flash!: The "OWS people" are the public......
    They are not the entirety of the public.
    Will they leave if another event was scheduled, ahead of their protest, where the whole park will be in use, by the event planners?

    Get this, parks are for everyone to use, for a limited time.
    It's the only fair way to share public spaces, that's why them camping there is wrong.
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