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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And what would eb the terrible consequences if they left them be?
    Continued crime and general lawlessness, continued trashing the public space, denying others the right to use the public space, blight.
    The city can be held liable for not enforcing the law and someone getting hurt too

    Lawsuits are fun right.
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    When a crowd does not follow a reasonable order.
    The same one that said, "You can protest, you just can't camp."

    What else should they do?
    Run away and hide?
    Same thing I tell parents with children, never back yourself in a corner where you don't have a choice but to do the worse. Pick your fights. I ask again, what we be the great consequences if you left them be?

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Continued crime and general lawlessness, continued trashing the public space, denying others the right to use the public space, blight.
    The city can be held liable for not enforcing the law and someone getting hurt too

    Lawsuits are fun right.
    I doubt that. I really do. I suspect it would have run its course and the kids would eventurally just go home. you harder the conviction by overreacting.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Same thing I tell parents with children, never back yourself in a corner where you don't have a choice but to do the worse. Pick your fights. I ask again, what we be the great consequences if you left them be?
    Any attempt to assign some order to this has been met with, "Your taking away meh rights!!"
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope, that example never crossed my mind. the mere fact that they let it get to the point of throwing tear gas is enough for me to suggest they didn't get excellent results.
    Let it get to that point?

    You STILL have no clue what happened on that night in Oakland do you.

    Attempting to re-take a park from local authorities for your little crime haven protest has nothing to do with protesting.
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I doubt that. I really do. I suspect it would have run its course and the kids would eventurally just go home. you harder the conviction by overreacting.
    Your doubt does not erase the potentials.
    That's why the state and city has laws.

    They can't afford the luxury of your doubt.
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And what would eb the terrible consequences if they left them be?
    • Businesses shut down.
    • Employees in area inconvenienced and intimidated
    • Taxpayers rights enfringed upon.
    • Oakland resources stressed beyond breaking.
    • Cost to Oakland taxpayers over $2.4 million.
    • Property destruction.
    • Injuries
    • At least one death
    • Rapes

    Other than that short list, nothing.
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    • Businesses shut down.
    • Employees in area inconvenienced and intimidated
    • Taxpayers rights enfringed upon.
    • Oakland resources stressed beyond breaking.
    • Cost to Oakland taxpayers over $2.4 million.
    • Property destruction.
    • Injuries
    • At least one death
    • Rapes
    Other than that short list, nothing.
    Clearly the right of camping in a park, should be upheld over all that.
    Get with the times Maggie.
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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    At night, when the OWS decided to not comply with the multiple warnings.

    Yes camping can be a big deal, especially in a crime haven like Oakland.
    Who should be responsible for cleaning up feces, trash, etc?

    It's a public park not meant for camping at all.
    They were not designed to accompany campers.
    The first time they moved them out in Oakland, they did it at like 4am, after posting an eviction notice for the entire previous day.
    The incident that occurred at NIGHT occurred as a result of people trying to take the camp back from the police. Thats where all the "horrible police action" we speak of comes from.

    Apparently, some on here believe protesters have the right to take land physically occupied by local authorities from them.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Police clear out Oakland protest camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I doubt that. I really do. I suspect it would have run its course and the kids would eventurally just go home. you harder the conviction by overreacting.

    And when the opposite happens, people are hurt, and the park ruined, people killed, women raped, and disease rampant then what would you say? Ah, I guess I was wrong?


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