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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    I blame the owners for this. The owners are at fault for giving these ridiculous contracts. Some of the players even acknowledge there overpaid, but its not like the asked for these ridiculous deals. The owners just gave it to them. Who here thought that joe johnson was going to be offered a max? He would be crazy to turn that down.

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Maybe the NBA players should look at how well the NFL players did with decertifying and suing based on antitrust laws.
    Well there were things that worked for the NFL, but I think a lot of that came from the fact that both sides knew they needed a season. Even football would be hard pressed to rebound from a complete no season. Basketball is even worse off than that, it would have a HELL of a time trying to come back from no season. They'll find that people will move on. In general, I am not a fan of basketball and I would like to see no season. I'd rather they put on hockey which actually has rules and tries to enforce them evenly than some sports entertainment that the NBA had become. The NBA is mistaken if they think they can survive well enough after a long strike/lock out.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The players are idiots. They don't realize that the owners hold every card in this.

    The owners, at least 22 of them, are gleeful that no NBA season will be played. They will lose far less money by not playing at all. The is nothing like the NFL situation, where billions were at stake for both sides.

    NBA television ratings are pathetic, even a Finals like this year when intrigue was pretty high. The league is simply not that popular, and it's viewed by many as a just a band of overhyped, pompous thugs, even by professional athlete standards.

    Simply put, most of the owners are giddy, and they are determined to get this thing to a money-making structure before a ball is ever bounced in an NBA game ever again.
    The owners have no league without the players. The owners have no media draw without the players. The owners have no revenue without the players.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Also as a bulls fan im upset mj sold out. He knows what its like the be a player.

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Come on, basketball doesn't even follow its own rules. Penalties are called depending on your popularity, traveling no longer exists, the refs were betting on the games and wasn't one in league with the mafia? It's not a sport, it's sport entertainment; and we already have wrestling.
    That happens in football to. Superbowl 40 was setup. The seahawks got robbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Also as a bulls fan im upset mj sold out. He knows what its like the be a player.
    But he is on the other side of the fence now. It always looks different on the other side.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    I blame the owners for this. The owners are at fault for giving these ridiculous contracts. Some of the players even acknowledge there overpaid, but its not like the asked for these ridiculous deals. The owners just gave it to them. Who here thought that joe johnson was going to be offered a max? He would be crazy to turn that down.
    Your comment is so off base that I actually have to resort to defending the owners on this one.

    1) Yes, some players are overpaid. Many are not.

    2) The reason players like Joe Johnson are overpaid is not exactly the owners fault. It has to do with how free agency is structured under the most current CBA. For a team like Atlanta, they face two primary options when a player like Joe Johnson reaches free agency. They can either let him go to another team and completely be screwed, or they can overpay him somewhat. Giving Joe Johnson a max contract is essentially the lesser of two evils.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    That happens in football to. Superbowl 40 was setup. The seahawks got robbed.
    In total agreement. The refs decided that game giving the Steelers at least one TD they should not have and denying the Seahawks their own. Here in the Detroit area, the buzz all week before the bowl was that the league wanted Pitt to win because of Bettis.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In total agreement. The refs decided that game giving the Steelers at least one TD they should not have and denying the Seahawks their own. Here in the Detroit area, the buzz all week before the bowl was that the league wanted Pitt to win because of Bettis.
    And in the Chicago/NO NFC championship game, everyone wanted NO to win. But the Bears did instead.

    I think there are plenty of questionable calls to be made. Is it some conspiracy to preferentially select a winner through referring? I'm not 100% sure I'd buy into that without a bit more evidence/measurement.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    from the wikipedia article on SP40

    On August 6, 2010, while visiting the Seahawks' preseason training camp for an annual rules interpretation session with the Seattle media, Leavy brought up Super Bowl XL without being asked, and admitted to having blown calls:[19]
    “ It was a tough thing for me. I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter and I impacted the game, and as an official you never want to do that. It left me with a lot of sleepless nights, and I think about it constantly. I'll go to my grave wishing that I'd been better ... I know that I did my best at that time, but it wasn't good enough ... When we make mistakes, you got to step up and own them. It's something that all officials have to deal with, but unfortunately when you have to deal with it in the Super Bowl it's difficult.[20]
    Heck, even the Pittsburgh quarterback admits that he never got over the goal line on a called TD. It was robbery and the fix was in and it takes away from the credibility of every game since.
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