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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

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    Ugh I wish the Thrashers were still here, this situation would have really helped them out down here. Atleast the jackasses that own the Hawks are bleeding money, I do feel sorry for all the business's around the arena that are probably also bleeding money.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Here is a thought. Maybe the college basketball players should use there degree and get a job.
    You are so mean!!!


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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The NBA did nothing wrong. The NBA was moving until it hit its wall and instead of taking notice of that fact the NBA players actually thought that not moving and filing some lame excuse of a case against the NBA was a better option.

    Saying this however, this kind of action just proves what I said last week. The employers ARE forced to bargain the way the union members want or face things like this. If anyone here didn't bargain in good faith it was the players.
    Bull****. What the owners did was give the players the equivalent of a ****ty deal. When the players backed away from it, the league painted the players as unreasonable. Stern and his media office are master manipulators of media perception.

    In a battle between millionaires and billionaires, it's the billionaires that always win out. The players are just playing hardball at this point. The fact that you make comments like this tells me just how ill-informed your perception of the economics of the sport is. No matter how this ends, it's the owners that always win out.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    I wish I could put some sympathy out there for the parties involved or the fans, but I can't.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    ...is that you in your avatar? because if so...
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I wish I could put some sympathy out there for the parties involved or the fans, but I can't.
    you fan-hater.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You do understand why the pay decreases were offered yes? As for the NBA being a monopoly, that is bogus. They compete against other sports for many of the same fans.
    C'mon, let's not act like the NBA and the other leagues cater to the same market/viewership/fanbase. It is in essence a monopoly. But that's not really the problem here, the players aren't really against the NBA being a monopoly, it's simply a convenient tactic to expedite the decertification.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You are so mean!!!

    Actually, his comment isn't that far from the truth. The average NBA career only lasts a few years. Athletes should make use of the education that they receive in college, because becoming a professional athlete these days is not a sure path to economic or financial stability.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Bull****. What the owners did was give the players the equivalent of a ****ty deal. When the players backed away from it, the league painted the players as unreasonable. Stern and his media office are master manipulators of media perception.

    In a battle between millionaires and billionaires, it's the billionaires that always win out. The players are just playing hardball at this point. The fact that you make comments like this tells me just how ill-informed your perception of the economics of the sport is. No matter how this ends, it's the owners that always win out.
    They are forced to bargain in exactly the way the union wants. If that wasn't true it wouldn't matter what kind of deal they put on the table. It does though, doesn't it? You even admitted it. The deal was **** according to you, for what I assume is nothing more than they got less money then before. Is it a bad deal when the owners get less money? No. Why would it be? Oh I don't know, because they own everything. It would piss me off enough if they were just forced to bargain(they are) but they also have to give in to what the union wants and that just throws me off the deep end of pissed. Freedom just goes right out the window so hard only because they own the business and that is it. Its bull****.

    And don't tell I don't understand the economics. I do. The deal they made last time bit them in the ass and they needed to get some money back from the unions, but the entire time the players were playing stupid. At first it all was a lie, and then it was kind of a lie, and now they just don't want to talk anymore. Yeah, they showed a real ability to bargain in good faith. Bull****.
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    Re: NBA Lockout: NBPA Rejects Deal, Announces It Will File For Decertification

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    you fan-hater.
    I know. Lord knows you can watch old games, or....read a book. :P
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