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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Really!!!! You want big bad powerful GOVERNMENT to interfere in an economic arrangement between workers and employers!!!!!?????? That seems a betrayal of both conservative and libertarian principles.
    The tax payers are the employers of these teachers, firemen,politicians and other tax payer funded employees.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    actually Maggie its if Republicans lose these recalls it is because the people spoke and exercised their right to vote.
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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I might agree that Unions often wield their excessive power like a sledgehammer, but we needed them in years past due to the Republican/Corporate agenda.
    This has nothing to do with those employed by corporations.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The tax payers are the employers of these teachers, firemen,politicians and other tax payer funded employees.
    Actually, in a strict sense, the taxpayers hire others who act as the employers of these teachers, firemen politicians and other employees. No citizen, just because they pay taxes, has any of the rights that an employer does over a public employee.
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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually, in a strict sense, the taxpayers hire others who act as the employers of these teachers, firemen politicians and other employees. No citizen, just because they pay taxes, has any of the rights that an employer does over a public employee.
    This does not change the fact that tax paying citizens are the employers of these teachers, firemen,police, politicians and other tax payer funded employees. As such we have every damn right to make sure the government doesn't **** tax payers in the ass when dealing with lousy employees.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Really!!!! You want big bad powerful GOVERNMENT to interfere in an economic arrangement between workers and employers!!!!!?????? That seems a betrayal of both conservative and libertarian principles.
    Conservative principles do not endorse collusion and extortion.
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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dan is a big government Union guy, he'd never accept the people said "enough with union power". Unions, ARE power for him.
    Unions at base are nothing more than association rights and contract rights; which are fundamental.
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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Conservative principles do not endorse collusion and extortion.
    I don't know, no one does collusion and extortion like the government and I dare say some of you "conservatives" probably wouldn't mind so long as the collusion and extortion were along lines you agree with.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This does not change the fact that tax paying citizens are the employers of these teachers, firemen,police, politicians and other tax payer funded employees. As such we have every damn right to make sure the government doesn't **** tax payers in the ass when dealing with lousy employees.
    They fund the institutions of government which employ these people. That is a significant distinction with a difference. A citizen has no rights over public employees that their actual employer of record may have.
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    Re: Walker recall effort to start at midnight

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Conservative principles do not endorse collusion and extortion.
    And that means what exactly after you reprint my statement ?
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