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Texans Lose Bid for Confederate Flag License Plates

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Texans Lose Bid for Confederate Flag License Plates
Updated: Friday, 11 Nov 2011, 7:41 AM EST
Published : Friday, 11 Nov 2011, 7:41 AM EST

By NewsCore

AUSTIN, Texas - Texas drivers lost their bid to get the Confederate battle flag added to specialty license plates, with an overwhelming rejection by the state's Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV), the Houston Chronicle reported.

The unanimous vote came during an emotional DMV board meeting Thursday, during which several African-Americans said that they associate the Confederate flag with bondage and brutality and noted that hate groups -- including the Ku Klux Klan -- still use it.

Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) also warned that putting the flag on license plates could reopen painful scars and trigger violence, according to the report.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans wanted the plates to commemorate relatives who fought under the flag during the Civil War. The group is likely to file a lawsuit, Texas division commander Granvel Block said.

The DMV board was deadlocked 4-4 when the application first came up in April, but Thursday's decision came just weeks after Gov. Rick Perry -- who is running for the US presidency -- expressed opposition to the proposal while on the campaign trail. All of the board members were appointed by Perry.



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I always associate this symbol as a symbol of hate. Comparable to the swastika. This is a good thing that it was voted down.
 
There was and is still just as much hatred in the north as there is in the south. Our history confirms this. If a yankee thought nothing of hanging a black person in his own back yard what is the "glory" in the fact that the victim was not a slave? Hipocracy has always been a strong force in the foundation of this country. The Dixie flag is not a symbol of hatred any more than the American flag is and this nation killed many more people in this country and the world under "Old Glory" than the flag of Dixie ever did.
 
I do not think the confederate flag is a symbol of hatred,slavery or something only ignorant hillbillies and rednecks fly.The people who make assumptions that its a symbol of racism,slavery or hatred are just being being ignorant and bigoted themselves. I believe that the only flag an American should be flying is the American flag,so that is my only issue with the confederate flag. So in a sense I see this no different than someone wanting a Mexican,Irish,British or some other nationality flag on their American license plate.
 
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I do not think the confederate flag is a symbol of hatred,slavery or something only ignorant hillbillies and rednecks fly.The people who make assumptions that its a symbol of racism,slavery or hatred are just being being ignorant and bigoted themselves. I believe that the only flag an American should be flying is the American flag,so that is my only issue with the confederate flag. So in a sense I see this no different than someone wanting a Mexican,Irish,British or some other nationality flag on their American license plate.

I never thought of it that way, but that is an excellent point.
 
I always associate this symbol as a symbol of hate. Comparable to the swastika. This is a good thing that it was voted down.

I have a 5'x8' Confederate flag on my wall. I don't have it as a symbol of racism, hatred, etc. (although most people assume that's what it means). I have it because my family fought in the Civil War.
 
I have a 5'x8' Confederate flag on my wall. I don't have it as a symbol of racism, hatred, etc. (although most people assume that's what it means). I have it because my family fought in the Civil War.

Ironically, war is about hatred.
 
I don't hate the Union. That's not what the flag stands for, to me.

I understand it's a memorial to your relatives, for you. Personally, I'd hang up a family tree.
 
I have a 5'x8' Confederate flag on my wall. I don't have it as a symbol of racism, hatred, etc. (although most people assume that's what it means). I have it because my family fought in the Civil War.

If your family is like most families during that time, you probably had family on both sides.

As far as the license plates go, if you want to show your political beliefs on your car, that's what bumper stickers are for. Unless there's going to be license plates for every view, there shouldn't be plates for any of them.
 
The most racist place in the country I've witnessed is Boston, Mass. People of different ethnicities barely look each other in the eye.

But you go to Jackson, Miss., and black and white people are talking and eating together like it's nothing. Now, they don't tend to live in the same areas, true, but they don't avoid each other whatsoever during their daily lives.

The hypocrisy of the "enlightened" north is truly disturbing.
 
Ironically, war is about hatred.

There's been more bloodshed under the flag of the United States of America than any other flag in modern history. Still....we fly it proudly. The Confederate Flag is part of the history of our country -- fought to assert state rights. We may not be through doing that yet...
 
I always associate this symbol as a symbol of hate. Comparable to the swastika. This is a good thing that it was voted down.

Yeah, it sure is. Hell with all that extra revenue the state might have gotten from the sales of the these plates. Who needs that, right?

Let's put political correctness ahead of everything, from hear on out.
 
There's been more bloodshed under the flag of the United States of America than any other flag in modern history. Still....we fly it proudly. The Confederate Flag is part of the history of our country -- fought to assert state rights. We may not be through doing that yet...

:rofl

Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.
 
Yeah, it sure is. Hell with all that extra revenue the state might have gotten from the sales of the these plates. Who needs that, right?

Let's put political correctness ahead of everything, from hear on out.

How about state issued truck nuts?
 
The Dixie flag is not a symbol of hatred any more than the American flag is and this nation killed many more people in this country and the world under "Old Glory" than the flag of Dixie ever did.

That's all fine and dandy, but you lost. Your flag dies with the resistance. As the winning faction, and thus the sovereign, it is our right to rebuke all displays of the flag which once dared to challenge Northern superiority (hahahah).

But seriously, South did lose, the federal government could easily and within their rightful power ban the Confederate flag from flying on any government building/property in the US along with State issued devices such as Drivers License or License Plate. Though in this case it was the Texas DMV which struck it down.
 
There's been more bloodshed under the flag of the United States of America than any other flag in modern history. Still....we fly it proudly. The Confederate Flag is part of the history of our country -- fought to assert state rights. We may not be through doing that yet...

Really? The sun never set on the British Empire. I'm sure there were other places much worse than ourselves...or if not "much worse", more widespread and efficient.

Still if we had to rise in rebellion against the Government, I would not choose the old Confederate Flag to wave. A new symbol would have to be created.
 
That's all fine and dandy, but you lost. Your flag dies with the resistance. As the winning faction, and thus the sovereign, it is our right to rebuke all displays of the flag which once dared to challenge Northern superiority (hahahah).

But seriously, South did lose, the federal government could easily and within their rightful power ban the Confederate flag from flying on any government building/property in the US along with State issued devices such as Drivers License or License Plate. Though in this case it was the Texas DMV which struck it down.

Also, it's not the "Dixie flag". It's the Confederate Battle Flag.
 
There's been more bloodshed under the flag of the United States of America than any other flag in modern history. Still....we fly it proudly. The Confederate Flag is part of the history of our country -- fought to assert state rights. We may not be through doing that yet...
The British flag is also a part of the history of our country, should we fly that too?
 
Yeah, it sure is. Hell with all that extra revenue the state might have gotten from the sales of the these plates. Who needs that, right?

Let's put political correctness ahead of everything, from hear on out.

Why should someone be able to put that political view on a license plate, but not others? Heck, don't you think "Obama 2012" plates would make some revenue somewhere?

If you want to express your political views, buy a bumper sticker. License plates aren't the place.
 
The British flag is also a part of the history of our country, should we fly that too?

Texas used to be part of Mexico, how about those plates? Lousiana was French, and Alaska and Hawaii were Russian. Where are those plates?
 
Texas used to be part of Mexico, how about those plates? Lousiana was French, and Alaska and Hawaii were Russian. Where are those plates?
Exactly. We have a lot of flags in our history, but none of those flags represent us now, including the Confederate flag.
 
Isn't the point, though, that this was a Texas issue that was resolved by Texans? Who's been complaining that the issue didn't pass? Or did I just step into last week's thread?
 
How about state issued truck nuts?

That would be cutting into private sector companies that sell that sort of thing, but only the government sells license plates. See what I mean, now?
 
That's all fine and dandy, but you lost. Your flag dies with the resistance. As the winning faction, and thus the sovereign, it is our right to rebuke all displays of the flag which once dared to challenge Northern superiority (hahahah).

But seriously, South did lose, the federal government could easily and within their rightful power ban the Confederate flag from flying on any government building/property in the US along with State issued devices such as Drivers License or License Plate. Though in this case it was the Texas DMV which struck it down.

The British Flag isn't dead.

We also need to take into consideration all the former Confederate soldiers who served in the United States military. We owe them something for all their service.
 
Why should someone be able to put that political view on a license plate, but not others? Heck, don't you think "Obama 2012" plates would make some revenue somewhere?

Who said that no one else should be able to? But, I don't think political campaign license plates would be a big sellers...just my opinion.

If you want to express your political views, buy a bumper sticker. License plates aren't the place.

Anyone that doesn't like it doesn't have to buy one.
 
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