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    Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Tension escalated between Occupy Oakland and city leaders Wednesday when protesters swarmed a news conference held by five council members who were calling for the immediate dismantling of the encampment outside City Hall.

    Protesters shouted, "We are the 99 percent of Oakland!" and drowned out the council members who were standing at a podium but had no sound system.

    Councilwoman Desley Brooks then started her own chant, which was repeated by the two dozen members of the clergy, business owners and other council members who had gathered to speak out against the camp. Their chant was "Occupy Oakland must go!"

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    Later in the evening, Occupy Oakland protesters gathered for their general assembly meeting and withdrew a resolution calling for future demonstrations to remain peaceful. A faction of the protest group has advocated for violence as a "diversity in tactics" approach to demonstrating.
    Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    As I've been saying all along...the OWSer's movement will die out if they take a peaceful protest attitude. They can't have that. They want the authorities to bust some heads.

    More violence on the part of OWS is on it's way.
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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Maybe they want the change they gathered for... and possibly dont desire to bring violence of themselves in a mad conspiracy without ends?

    ...perhaps?

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Funny, I thought it already died out.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Maybe they want the change they gathered for... and possibly dont desire to bring violence of themselves in a mad conspiracy without ends?

    ...perhaps?
    Could you rephrase the highlighted part of your post?

    I'm sorry, but I really don't know what you are trying to say there.

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As I've been saying all along...the OWSer's movement will die out if they take a peaceful protest attitude. They can't have that. They want the authorities to bust some heads.

    More violence on the part of OWS is on it's way.
    I don't know, they didn't seem to do much here. Just shout over a group of people wishing to end their right to assemble.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know, they didn't seem to do much here. Just shout over a group of people wishing to end their right to assemble.
    At the end of the article, it states:

    "Later in the evening, Occupy Oakland protesters gathered for their general assembly meeting and withdrew a resolution calling for future demonstrations to remain peaceful. A faction of the protest group has advocated for violence as a "diversity in tactics" approach to demonstrating."

    I think that is the problem.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    At the end of the article, it states:

    "Later in the evening, Occupy Oakland protesters gathered for their general assembly meeting and withdrew a resolution calling for future demonstrations to remain peaceful. A faction of the protest group has advocated for violence as a "diversity in tactics" approach to demonstrating."

    I think that is the problem.
    But this incident has nothing to do with that, and how can they have "resolutions" and blah if they aren't to be organized?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    At the end of the article, it states:

    "Later in the evening, Occupy Oakland protesters gathered for their general assembly meeting and withdrew a resolution calling for future demonstrations to remain peaceful. A faction of the protest group has advocated for violence as a "diversity in tactics" approach to demonstrating."

    I think that is the problem.
    do they passively allow their rights to be taken from them

    or do they take whatever action is necessary to assert their Constitutional rights, when those in authority attempt to unlawfully deprive them of their lawful rights

    do they listen to Malcolm X
    or MLK/Gandhi?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But this incident has nothing to do with that, and how can they have "resolutions" and blah if they aren't to be organized?
    Mycroft's point (Mycroft, correct me if I am wrong) was that the OWS rallies would become violent or fail. The news artilcle clearly states that the group is making arangements in it's ranks to have uncivil/unpeaceful protests because their movement is failing. This incident has everyting to do with the OWS becoming violent. Because of this incident, they felt that weren't being heard and are now making an effort to be "violent" in order to be heard. Much like a child who doesn't get what they want.
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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    do they passively allow their rights to be taken from them

    or do they take whatever action is necessary to assert their Constitutional rights, when those in authority attempt to unlawfully deprive them of their lawful rights

    do they listen to Malcolm X
    or MLK/Gandhi?
    I don't know, what would you do?

    I can assure you, I would not attack my fellow citizen.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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