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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    who asserted that anyone has a right to disrupt

    but we know you asserted that you have a right to hear what public officals want to say

    only we have established that you actually have no such right. you made that up. what else do you make up out of thin air for your posts
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    Got you. You don't research much do you. So we can now ignore what you post as opinion only.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has also recognized this right.
    The Constitutional Right to Listen - Peter Ferrara - National Review Online
    In 1986ís Pacific Gas and Elec. Co. v. Public Utilities Commín of California, the Court held that the constitutional guarantee of free speech protects significant societal interests wholly apart from the speakerís interest in self-expression, including the publicís interest in receiving information. And in 2000ís U.S. v. Playboy Entertainment Group, Inc., the Court ruled that, under the First Amendmentís free-speech clause, the citizen is entitled to seek out or reject certain ideas or influences
    without government interference or control.
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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Could you rephrase the highlighted part of your post?

    I'm sorry, but I really don't know what you are trying to say there.

    Thank you.
    Sorry, little sleep, replace the 'of' with 'upon'.

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Does no one see the paradox of a group protesting for their own freedom of speech by not allowing others the same freedom? By shouting down everyone with whom they disagree, they have just become that which they supposedly abhorr... people who will not allow the freedom of protest or dissenting opinion.

    There are posters in this thread wearing big enough blinders to make a Clydesdale proud.

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Sorry, little sleep, replace the 'of' with 'upon'.
    Ah...that makes sense now.

    I think that some...probably most...of the useful idiots don't want violence.

    But the people directing the show DO want violence. They depend on it. Their movement will die without it.
    TANSTAAFL

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    Re: Occupy campers shout down Oakland council members

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
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    Got you. You don't research much do you. So we can now ignore what you post as opinion only.
    now you are just being silly
    read the opinion
    it does not give you a right to "hear"
    in no way does it compel others to remain silent so that you can hear what another is saying

    The U.S. Supreme Court has also recognized this right.
    nope
    it has not
    it confirms what we already knew
    that you have a right to "listen"
    but that is not your argument
    no one prevented you from listening
    instead, you insist that you have a right to "hear"
    pity you are unable to appreciate the distinction

    The Constitutional Right to Listen - Peter Ferrara - National Review Online
    In 1986ís Pacific Gas and Elec. Co. v. Public Utilities Commín of California, the Court held that the constitutional guarantee of free speech protects significant societal interests wholly apart from the speakerís interest in self-expression, including the publicís interest in receiving information. And in 2000ís U.S. v. Playboy Entertainment Group, Inc., the Court ruled that, under the First Amendmentís free-speech clause, the citizen is entitled to seek out or reject certain ideas or influences
    without government interference or control.
    and please show us where the government interfered with your opportunity to seek out any ideas or influences

    my inclination to be civil tells me to say 'nice try'; but in reality, since you are so far off the mark, desperate to find cover for your assertion that you have a Constitutional right to "hear", it was actually a sophomoric effort
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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