Really kind of a confusing post, you say that we pay more then many other counties in taxes, yet you want to raise our taxes, will you be happy when we pay more than any other country???Boo Radley;1059946346]We don't have UHC, so they aren't taking it for that. But yes, taxes pay for ****. No one denies that. But, we pay now. Right now. And we pay more than other countries, for less. Not sure why you think that is good. But do always keep in mind my argument: we need to cut spending and increase revenue. To do this, we should also clarify where we spend money. Health care is one of the places I think we should. That's just an argument. Not crying at all. Not saying poor anyone.
It's also been pointed out that we pay more in health care then most other countries, yet you want to increase our spending on health care. I just can't help but to wonder as a modern day liberal, is there any solution with you people that doesn't call for even more spending? Forgive me for saying this .... but it's just that kind of thinking that has this country of ours 15 trillion dollars in debt.
Yes we can do better, I don't think anyone is arguing that point, but you fail to point on a very important factor, we have the very best health care in the world. To those that have decent health care insurance, or the money to pay for their health care, we have the best, bar none. Our problem is not the health care that we have, it's in making it more affordable to those that don't have it. We disagree in a major way, because there are still over 70% of the people that have access to our health care, and I don't think that we should diminish the quality of what we have, as we seem to be doing with the health care bill we now have. But again .. I understand that with liberals like yourself, the answer to all our problems is just to spend more on a problem and that will fix it.On that, you're completely wrong about. You pay for others, and with no mechanism to monitor how much you pay over what was used. Those countries have better access. Do better overall, despite some problems, than we do. And I suspect, if we really tried, we could do even better.
You can deny it or do something about it, but there is no doubt that without remaining competitive in education the United States will continue its slide vis a vis other nations. The natural wealth and freedoms many Americans still feel is their birthright and the natural order of things, will continue to slip away. It is not written in the stars that the superior lifestyle Americans have enjoyed over the decades is a thing of permanence. Americans have recently changed their philosophy and attitudes and, as they do so, their prominence in the world will drift away. Ideas have consequences and the ideas of the Left always and inevitably have amazing similar consequences.
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Should I go through a list of spending you desire or you should you just admit the meaning of what I said is obvious?Originally Posted by Haymarket
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Who's arguing that point?
You were pointing the finger at the cause of the demise of the education standards towards teachers unions. I merely pointed out that teachers are 63% NON union. Not to mention that policy setting administrators are probably 100% NON union.
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