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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Something just occurred to me here.

    The Far Right loves, loves, loves to trumpet about how important it is for the majority to rule, for 50%+1 to have the final word on any political decision. Yet when such a decision doesn't go their way, all hell breaks loose. Evidence: this thread.
    They also liked the Citizens United ruling. Until the Unions pumped money into the Ohio referendum. Then it was bad.


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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They also liked the Citizens United ruling. Until the Unions pumped money into the Ohio referendum. Then it was bad.
    Excellent observation. Their advocacy has come back to bite them in the posterior and take a big chunk of flesh. I could not be happier about it.
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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There's actually a very good reason for all the spending: most people like what it buys and would rather see taxes go up than see, e.g. Medicare and Social Security cut.
    If that's true why did BHO reduce the FICA taxes twice? Isn't part of his jobs bill (AJA) to reduce this even further? Are these the taxes that most people would like to see go up? You DO know that FICA taxes pay for Medicare and Social Security, right?

    People in this country are taxed at a lower rate than people in most civilized countries.
    Yes, we are but in the other 'most civilized countries' there are FAR more government 'benefit' programs than we have in this country. Medical care, higher education, earlier retirements, etc. are typical of these other countries thus the reason for their higher taxes. We could have the same but it appears to not be working out so well for several in the EU. But I guess only time will tell.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They also liked the Citizens United ruling. Until the Unions pumped money into the Ohio referendum. Then it was bad.
    Actually the converse is true. The unions pumping money into the elections only validates the Citizens United ruling. You guys have been hypocrites in complaining about CU knowing the whole time you would promote union money THE SAME WAY!

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Excellent observation. Their advocacy has come back to bite them in the posterior and take a big chunk of flesh. I could not be happier about it.
    MEEEE TOOOO!!! And I hope the result of this referendum doesn't 'bite them (Ohioians) in the posterior and take a big chunk of flesh'. But in the end I will hate it for them but I don't live there so...good luck with that.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Actually the converse is true. The unions pumping money into the elections only validates the Citizens United ruling. You guys have been hypocrites in complaining about CU knowing the whole time you would promote union money THE SAME WAY!
    Yes it does validate it. I never thought the ruling was wrong, so I'm not surprised in the least. What I am surprised about is that Unions made it work for them so quickly.

    The point is that the ultra-Cons were dancing up a storm when the ruling came down. Yet in another thread, Conservative was bitching about how much money the Unions spent. There it is. Did you really lack the foresight to see that the Unions would learn to use the ruling?


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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I majored in political science in college. I taught government for over 33 years. I have no idea what you are talking about and i suspect that neither do you with this statement
    You have no idea what I'm talking about? What good does all this experience do you when you are clueless?

    You want to balance the book by keeping things around you shouldn't. That is what you are doing..

    Lewis Carroll could have written that. On second thought scratch that as Carroll was a much superior writer.
    So there is an counter argument. Good show Hay.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Something just occurred to me here.

    The Far Right loves, loves, loves to trumpet about how important it is for the majority to rule, for 50%+1 to have the final word on any political decision. Yet when such a decision doesn't go their way, all hell breaks loose. Evidence: this thread.
    That is the left you dolt.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes it does validate it. I never thought the ruling was wrong, so I'm not surprised in the least. What I am surprised about is that Unions made it work for them so quickly.

    The point is that the ultra-Cons were dancing up a storm when the ruling came down. Yet in another thread, Conservative was bitching about how much money the Unions spent. There it is. Did you really lack the foresight to see that the Unions would learn to use the ruling?
    Unions had been doing this, before McCain Feingold, it's nothing new.
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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You have no idea what I'm talking about?
    That is because you talk nonsense. Try explaining your own statements which made no sense to start with

    You want to balance the book by keeping things around you shouldn't. That is what you are doing..
    You talk nonsense and then try to crack wise when you are not understood due to your own ineptitude with language and reason. But do give it a shot.
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