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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

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    BY all means, point out my whining.


    I'll wait.

    looks like whining to me
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    I work hard all the time.Most working people do. Make sacrifices as well. you're making leaps that logic and reality won't support. But like I said, one has to feel sorry for the rich. It's not their fault everyone is always picking on them. Poor things. They really should have a suppport group.




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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    looks like whining to me
    Making fun of you whining is not whining. Try again.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Making fun of you whining is not whining. Try again.
    Don't you whine all the time about how we don't have universal healthcare? Would pay for that? The rich.

    Whiner.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Don't you whine all the time about how we don't have universal healthcare? Would pay for that? The rich.

    Whiner.
    Whine? Don't think so, but at least we do have a real healthcare issue here in the US. There is no real abused rich people here in the US. BTW, as we pay more for health care than nearly any nation in the world, who do think pays for it now?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Whine? Don't think so, but at least we do have a real healthcare issue here in the US. There is no real abused rich people here in the US. BTW, as we pay more for health care than nearly any nation in the world, who do think pays for it now?
    Nearly? We pay more than any other nation, period. And we pay double what most industrialized countries pay per capita. It boggles my mind that some people defend our system.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

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    Whine? Don't think so, but at least we do have a real healthcare issue here in the US.

    There is no real abused rich people here in the US.
    They pay vasts amounts of taxes. In fact, so do the middle class. Tell me, why do you think the government takes as much as it does from people? I will give you a hint, things like UHC and favors for people. You know,for people that like to whine about nothing having things, you know, like you.

    BTW, as we pay more for health care than nearly any nation in the world, who do think pays for it now?
    Our care is just paid for at its real value. Those other countries control the price of their product and have horrible short comings as a result. Second, if we didn't have horrible policies on the books and 100+ years of the government raising the price of care that raise with idiotic actions all of which raise the price of care to this very day.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

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    Nearly? We pay more than any other nation, period. And we pay double what most industrialized countries pay per capita. It boggles my mind that some people defend our system.
    Who actually does that often? There is a difference between not wanting government control and defending how it is. In fact, they might hate how it is because of control that is there now that is raising price. Ever think of that? You didn't, did you? No, you just think that if I'm against what you want, that clearly I'm defending how it is now. A bit sad.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    They pay vasts amounts of taxes. In fact, so do the middle class. Tell me, why do you think the government takes as much as it does from people? I will give you a hint, things like UHC and favors for people. You know,for people that like to whine about nothing having things, you know, like you.
    We don't have UHC, so they aren't taking it for that. But yes, taxes pay for ****. No one denies that. But, we pay now. Right now. And we pay more than other countries, for less. Not sure why you think that is good. But do always keep in mind my argument: we need to cut spending and increase revenue. To do this, we should also clarify where we spend money. Health care is one of the places I think we should. That's just an argument. Not crying at all. Not saying poor anyone.




    Our care is just paid for at its real value. Those other countries control the price of their product and have horrible short comings as a result. Second, if we didn't have horrible policies on the books and 100+ years of the government raising the price of care that raise with idiotic actions all of which raise the price of care to this very day.
    On that, you're completely wrong about. You pay for others, and with no mechanism to monitor how much you pay over what was used. Those countries have better access. Do better overall, despite some problems, than we do. And I suspect, if we really tried, we could do even better.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

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    Nearly? We pay more than any other nation, period. And we pay double what most industrialized countries pay per capita. It boggles my mind that some people defend our system.
    I try not to deal in absolutes, as it would only take one example to prove me wrong.

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    Re: Ohio voters reject Republican-backed union limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who actually does that often? There is a difference between not wanting government control and defending how it is. In fact, they might hate how it is because of control that is there now that is raising price. Ever think of that? You didn't, did you? No, you just think that if I'm against what you want, that clearly I'm defending how it is now. A bit sad.
    Virtually everyone who has health insurance does that year after year. You may not see the whole tab if your employer provides insurance, but rest assured that you ARE paying for it in the form of lower wages and other benefits.

    Government is not driving up the price of medical care: private industry is. That's just how it is. In any case, I wasn't addressing you specifically.

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