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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It doesn't matter what this particular court/judge ruled. Until the Supreme Court (SC) rules on this, it is not settled one way or the other. After the SC rules, it will either go away or the SC will then have to rule upon various states right to reject it. Until that process is complete, the bill will be declared constitutional and unconstitutional back and forth depending on the political view of a given court/judge. Even then, voters are going to have a say on the subject next November also. The Health Care bill will come up, over and over again during the next year leading up to the election. While it may not be the biggest issue to be challenged, it will play a role as it goes to the very heart of the two main factions, government control vs government staying out of peoples lives.
    You are quite correct...and I'm not worried too much about this Appeals Court ruling, except for this attitude:

    "The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute, and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems, no matter how local -- or seemingly passive -- their individual origins," wrote Judge Laurence Silberman.
    I find this statement to most alarming, coming from a court charged with upholding the Constitution, for this statement negates the fundamental notion that the Constitution is a constraint on government power.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's quite significant. The DC Circuit is generally considered to be the most prestigious of all the circuit courts -- particularly in matters such as these. The author of the opinion was a Reagan appointee.
    He has a long history of ruling like a moonbat ...... just like many of the fools George HW Bush put on federal courts. Your strawman is on fire.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You are quite correct...and I'm not worried too much about this Appeals Court ruling, except for this attitude:



    I find this statement to most alarming, coming from a court charged with upholding the Constitution, for this statement negates the fundamental notion that the Constitution is a constraint on government power.
    He clearly pulled most of his justification right out of his arse. He basically said congress can do anything it wants to, there is no boundary, no limits.......nothing can stop them from doing whatever the hell crosses their minds.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    The stumbling block may simply be fining those people who don't have insurance...but there's enough precedent with Social Security and Medicare being mandatory that I expect it to fly. We need national health insurance.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You should live in Kommiefornia and not a place like The Republic of Texas...................oh wait Texas makes ya do the same thing.
    We're the most lax when it comes to that though

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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    He has a long history of ruling like a moonbat ...... just like many of the fools George HW Bush put on federal courts. Your strawman is on fire.
    Strawman? I only mentioned it because I knew you would immediately leap to the ad hominem argument.

    And as usual you are dead wrong, unsurprisingly. Silberman is a life-long Republican who also served under Ford. He was mentioned as a possible AG replacement for Gonzalez. He authored the opinion finding that DC's gun ban violated the 2d Amendment and also upheld the Patriot Act's warrantless searches.

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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    He clearly pulled most of his justification right out of his arse. He basically said congress can do anything it wants to, there is no boundary, no limits.......nothing can stop them from doing whatever the hell crosses their minds.
    And that is basically what decades of Supreme Court jurisprudence has said with respect to the Commerce Clause.

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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I want car and home insurance requirements repealed. If requiring health care insurance is bad, then those must be bad as well.

    I also want employers to stop offering health insurance and pension plans. Lets go all the way conservative, everybody is on his own. This is the onlly way to stop this creeping socialism that threatens to turn us into a nation of dependents, all sucking the teats of government.

    So, is UtahBill being sarcastic, or not?
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Of course it was held constitutional. A federal healthcare plan fits exactly with the way the commerce clause has been used for the last several decades. If someone wants to argue against federal healthcare, claiming that it is unconstitutional is not the way to do it.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He authored the opinion finding that DC's gun ban violated the 2d Amendment and also upheld the Patriot Act's warrantless searches.
    AdamT 1, conservativeguy 0 ....... I stand corrected, Silberman did issues the opinions you posted, I though he was on the other side of the DC gun case, my mistake.

    With that said, he is wrong on this case and SCOTUS will prove it.
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