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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I draw the reader's attention to post #30 of this thread.
    Post #30 is about regulating commerce between the states. No where does it show that the federal government can make anyone buy something...be it inside a state or across state lines. And that is certainly what Justice Black (referenced in post #30 of your link) was referring to. That of regulating commerce between the states. Not the regulating of individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    When it's all said and done, I believe the PPACA, aka, "ObamaCare" will be ruled constitutional. It's already been ruled by lower appeals courts that the States don't have standing for two reasons: 1) federal law always trumps state law; and, 2) since the taxing provision of the healthcare reform law has yet to take affect, the States cannot challenge its economic impact on the grounds of financial imposition.
    1: Federal law does not trump individual rights. And forcing me to buy something just because I'm alive is certainly interfering with my right to choose not to buy something. 2: Which is bullchit since everyone under Gods green Earth KNOWS that it WILL be effecting everyone once 2013 rolls around. Just because its not effecting them currently does not change this fact.
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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    You're blurring together how much deficit the state government has and how well the state is doing. It's true that CA has a $25 billion budget deficit. That is because of the damn propositions. Voters have locked in mandatory spending while at the same time forbidding tax increases... It's idiotic. Ultimately we need to undo the propositions.

    But, that has very little to do with how well the state is or isn't doing. $25 billion is just over 1% of CA's GDP. That's nothing. That doesn't change the fact that the state is a massive economic powerhouse. It has led the last two big booms and is on its way to lead the next one.



    Nope, NJ is the largest net contributor to the federal budget and Connecticut is the second biggest one. LESS federal money is spent there per dollar of taxes they pay to the fed than any other states. So your theory seems to be exactly the opposite of what is happening.
    Less federal money is spent here in terms of programs and such, maybe. But out leading export in CT are jets, helicopters, guns, and submarines. Those items account for over 50% of our economy. Now tell me...who purchases CTs jets, guns, helicopters, and submarines? The federal government. And what money does said government use to purchases these products?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Health care law held constitutional in latest appeals court ruling

    SCOTUS has announced they will hear the case. Decision expected around June time frame.

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