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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the converse is true as well--there are those who slurp Obama constantly while claiming everything Bush did was damned
    Absolutely. The Obamabots who give Obama a pass on the things they cried bloody murder on Bush for are just as bad. Honestly, that's the #1 thing wrong with America. The inability to apply our standards consistently. It shouldn't matter what letter follows a politicians name. It's their policies. Obama failed on the healthcare bill (for one) because it did the SAME THING as Bush's Medicare D bill, it refused to apply the massive buying power of the government to cut down drug prices and thus save taxpayer dollars. I have YET to see a partisan acknowledge that. I have YET to see a partisan attack Bush's 2008 rebates yet they routinely call $330 billion in tax rebates in the Stimulus bill "a total failure."

    Seriously, we outta just chuck these people out of the country and revoke their citizenship. We don't need that kind of stupid.
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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    This seems to be the case with partisan hackjobs here. If Obama didn't do a stimulus and let demand drop dramatically causing unemployment to possibly spike to 25%, they would call for his head. If he had stopped TARP and let thousands of businesses relying on that money directly or indirectly go, they'd call for his head.
    Partisan rants are not a legit counter to what you percieve as partisan rants.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    Cookies must be enabled | The Australian

    "They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced bin Laden's death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized." That's because they didn't understand it was only about a photo op and a small bump in the polls to Obama.
    Looks like the book was filled with fiction ...

    Spec-Ops Command: SEAL raid book 'a lie'

    WASHINGTON (AP) The U.S. military is denouncing a former Navy SEAL's book that claims to describe the "real" version of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

    "It's just not true," U.S. Special Operations Command spokesman Col. Tim Nye said. "It's not how it happened."

    [...]

    Nye says Pfarrer had no access to any troops connected to the mission. He said there will be no investigation into whether individual SEALs spoke to Pfarrer because his account is so off-base.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Oops, my apologies ... I didn't see you posted this before me when I posted it.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Oops, my apologies ... I didn't see you posted this before me when I posted it.
    I am profoundly offended.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    None of this makes sense to me. A former SEAL commander speaking the press about this, the SEAL team that carried out the mission voicing their disapproval of Obama in a book not a year after their mission and implications that Obama COULD have waited to reveal the death of bin Laden? None of that adds up. I'm not buying it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Looks like the book was filled with fiction ...

    Spec-Ops Command: SEAL raid book 'a lie'

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military is denouncing a former Navy SEAL's book that claims to describe the "real" version of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

    "It's just not true," U.S. Special Operations Command spokesman Col. Tim Nye said. "It's not how it happened."

    [...]

    Nye says Pfarrer had no access to any troops connected to the mission. He said there will be no investigation into whether individual SEALs spoke to Pfarrer because his account is so off-base.
    Darn...You guys beat me to the punch. But let me throw these tidbits from the YahooNews article out there:

    Pfarrer claims he is still part of the fighting SEAL network, even intimating that he was part of the bin Laden raid preparation.

    "In the weeks and months leading up to Neptune's Spear (the code name for the bin Laden mission), it was my privilege to help troops and platoons train for submissions and run parallel HVT (high-value target) missions," Pfarrer writes.

    "That is categorically incorrect," spokesman Nye said. "He was not involved in mission planning, execution or close mission analysis."

    Pfarrer deflected that criticism, saying he was conducting training for the SEAL Team 6's parent organization, the Naval Special Warfare Command, through his defense security company Acme Ballistics. He refused to describe how closely such training was related to the raid, saying the contracts are classified.

    That is Pfarrer's frequent refrain when asked for proof of his controversial claims: that the accounts are from a top secret world only he has access to and that a reader must take his word on faith.

    But Pfarrer gets a multitude of facts wrong in describing events that are part of the public record.

    For instance, Pfarrer states that Obama appointed McRaven as the first Navy SEAL to head JSOC in April of this year. McRaven was actually appointed to that post in early 2008 by President George W. Bush. He states that the Army Special Forces Green Berets were established in 1962, instead of 1952. When U.S. special operations forces rehearsed for the famous Son Tay Raid in Vietnam in 1970, they trained at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, not Offutt in Nebraska.

    And a jet bombing run, not a drone strike, killed Iraqi al-Qaida ringleader Abu Musab al Zarqawi in 2006.
    This guy takes "war profitiering" to a whole new level. His accounts kinda make you wanna go "LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!," doesn't it?
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 11-15-11 at 01:23 PM.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    This entire thread is such nonsense. Obama is their commander-in-chief, so I do not know where they get off questioning his releasing of information. And all of you on this thread who say it was just a "photo-op" by Obama, hacks. I know it, and any other reasonable individual that reads this thread knows it.

    Get a life.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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