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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the point is that they had to announce something quickly. i doubt they would have released the info for a while if that helicopter wasn't lost.
    that, to me, was the hugest SNAFU of the whole thing. I am amazed that they didn't have an overwatch drone with hellfires. What an obvious, "no-kidding" addition to a raid like this.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Pakistan knew what was going down. This is the biggest problem I have with the story now. Not that I don't understand it.

    IMO the Seals know that stories like this will be spun for maximum political value. They don't care.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Islamic law says that a body should be interred in an extremely timely manner. Can you imagine just how much more people would have doubted Osama was actually deceased had they waited until he had been interred for weeks before releasing the news of his death?

    Also, the news of Obama's demise was already being reported by Al Jazeera before Obama made a formal announcement. It is silly to believe Obama's timing would have made any difference in the Intel's usefulness. I'm pretty sure more Al Qaeda operatives watch Al Jazeera than Fox, CNN or MSNBC.

    Edited to add this link: A witness account of bin Laden's death - Asia - Al Jazeera English
    The above is a fact many people understandably forget about. The raid was all over Twitter within 24-Hours and the source was a Pakistani national who just happened to live in the neighborhood, heard gun fire and the explosion from the downed Stealth helicopter and jumped on the social network to give his account of what was happening.

    The White House would have been very foolish to try and deny what was happening at the Bin Laden compound. I agree that they could have held back on some of the intell, i.e., stating that CIA operatives had been camping out at a nearby Pakistani residence conducting survellience or that they had collected flash drives and laptops, etc. However, I seriously doubt that the WH could have kept a lid on this raid or the killing of OBL for very long. I mean, the man's wife and children were witnesses to his assassination. Does anyone think they would keep quite about this once our Navy SEALS left?
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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    I guess that's why Gaddaffi (or however you spell his fricking name) was paraded around in a meat locker for a week.
    Touche'!!! OBL got the best burial-at-sea any global Islamic terrorist could possibly hope to have received.

    Gurgle, gurgle, Oscar. (It's a fish joke...in case some folks don't get it..."Oscar".)

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the point is that they had to announce something quickly. i doubt they would have released the info for a while if that helicopter wasn't lost.
    Obama couldn't wait to annouce wasting UBL. It's the single biggest positive event of his presidency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Pretty disappointing. By running to the cameras before Bid Laden was cold, it pretty much made the intel gathered in his complex useless.
    Again, it's not like the WH had much choice. News of the raid was all over Twitter. In this age of social media, there's just no way to keep something like this secret for very long.

    As to the intel gathered, again I agree the WH should have kept some of the details quite alittle while longer, but I don't think releasing what they did know, i.e., that they had gathered flash drives, CDs, operations manuals, did too much damage. I mean, they were about to confirm that the America Terrorist was in Yemen based on the intel gathered from the raid and look at how well that turned out?

    DING, DONG, The American Al Quaida terrorist recruiter is dead, too!

    You can't be upset about how well that bombing raid went either.

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama couldn't wait to annouce wasting UBL. It's the single biggest positive event of his presidency.
    Partisan hack and anti-Obama hater, BE GONE!!!

    Oh, wait...this is a public forum. And you're entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it may be.

    My bad...rant away, oh, yea of no faith.

    Of course, why should he have waited? GWB sure didn't wait when he got his public enemy #1, Saddam. Hell, America waited for 11 YEARS to get this guy! Why should Pres. Obama have waited to report that we got the man responsible for the death of near 3,000 American lives whereas Saddam killed or was responsible for killing how many Americans?

    That's what I thought.

    NEXT FOOLISH RANT...PLEASE!!!
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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It had everything do with it. Once UBL's compatriots learned that he was at room temperature, they instantly changed their MO, because they knew that we knew what he knew.
    I have but one question for you: "What has Al Quaida operatives done since the death of OBL?" Anything at all? And have their latest terrorist attacks, if any, had any success on American soil, its territories or our ally nation states?

    Here's a clue as to the answer to the question: CHIRP, CHIRP, CHIRP....

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that, to me, was the hugest SNAFU of the whole thing. I am amazed that they didn't have an overwatch drone with hellfires. What an obvious, "no-kidding" addition to a raid like this.
    Think about what you're saying here, cpwill.

    How far can those drones fly without needing to be refueled? And I'll remind you they are radio controlled. So, unless you have a monitoring station nearby housing someone trained to fly the darn thing...

    (It's okay...you're having one of those V-8 moments... )

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    Re: Bitter Seals tell of killing 'Bert' Laden

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I have but one question for you: "What has Al Quaida operatives done since the death of OBL?" Anything at all? And have their latest terrorist attacks, if any, had any success on American soil, its territories or our ally nation states?

    Here's a clue as to the answer to the question: CHIRP, CHIRP, CHIRP....
    Libya: Al Qaeda flag flown above Benghazi courthouse - Telegraph
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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