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    Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Elaine Riddick was 13 years old when she got pregnant after being raped by a neighbor in Winfall, N.C., in 1967. The state ordered that immediately after giving birth, she should be sterilized. Doctors cut and tied off her fallopian tubes. [ ] Riddick’s records reveal that a five-person state eugenics board in Raleigh had approved a recommendation that she be sterilized. The records label Riddick as “feebleminded” and “promiscuous.” They said her schoolwork was poor and that she “does not get along well with others.”

    North Carolina was one of 31 states to have a government run eugenics program. By the 1960s, tens of thousands of Americans were sterilized as a result of these programs.
    Eugenics was a scientific theory that grew in popularity during the 1920s. Eugenicists believed that poverty, promiscuity and alcoholism were traits that were inherited. To eliminate those society ills and improve society’s gene pool, proponents of the theory argued that those that exhibited the traits should be sterilized. Some of America’s wealthiest citizens of the time were eugenicists including Dr. Clarence Gamble of the Procter and Gamble fortune and James Hanes of the hosiery company. Hanes helped found the Human Betterment League which promoted the cause of eugenicists.
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    Like a page from the novel 1984, the victims of forced sterilization lived through an Orwellian nightmare. Against their will, they were permanently sterilized. The decision was made by people they never met who believed that they were inferior, and should not be able to breed. Should these victims be compensated by the government? And what attempts, if any, should be made to prevent this from happening again?

    Another interesting question: are there instances when people should be forcefully sterilized?
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Another interesting question: are there instances when people should be forcefully sterilized?
    serial rapists come to mind. although sterilization may not be going far enough.

    I would also add to the list:

    single women on govt assistance that have pumped out 4-5 kids and men who have fathered 4-5 kids by several different women.

    I know a female who had given birth to 7 kids by 5 different fathers by the time she was 25. perfect candidate for forced sterilization.


    or this guy:

    Man Claiming To Have Fathered 55 Kids By 42 Women Sued For Paternity Fraud
    http://newsone.com/world/casey-gane-...ternity-fraud/
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    There are people on this board that would agree with forced sterilization and have argued for it as of yesterday.

    I've heard about those instances though. It's sick that some boards acted as God and mandated who can have children and who can't. You'd think this story would of gotten more press because it's a pretty sickening situation.
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    serial rapists come to mind. although sterilization may not be going far enough.

    I would also add to the list:

    single women on govt assistance that have pumped out 4-5 kids and men who have fathered 4-5 kids by several different women.
    I think of Andrea Yates. Should a woman who killed her own kids be sterilized? I tend to automatically say yes in these extreme types of situations, like the one you mentioned. But what a horrifying precedent to set.
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I think of Andrea Yates. Should a woman who killed her own kids be sterilized? I tend to automatically say yes in these extreme types of situations, like the one you mentioned. But what a horrifying precedent to set.
    true. the old slippery slope comes into play. If we start forcibly sterilizing people like that....how long before the definition/standard is broadened to include even more "undesirables"?
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    serial rapists come to mind. although sterilization may not be going far enough.

    I would also add to the list:

    single women on govt assistance that have pumped out 4-5 kids and men who have fathered 4-5 kids by several different women.

    I know a female who had given birth to 7 kids by 5 different fathers by the time she was 25. perfect candidate for forced sterilization.


    or this guy:



    Man Claiming To Have Fathered 55 Kids By 42 Women Sued For Paternity Fraud | News One
    Serial rapists (specifically pedophiles, who are acting on attraction, not power urges) should have their genitals completely removed. Sterilization alone will not prevent them from further action, but making them eunics will quell a lot of those desires pretty quickly...
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Serial rapists (specifically pedophiles, who are acting on attraction, not power urges) should have their genitals completely removed. Sterilization alone will not prevent them from further action, but making them eunics will quell a lot of those desires pretty quickly...
    I have seen several instances where convicted child molesters have actually asked the court to have themselves chemically castrated.
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I have seen several instances where convicted child molesters have actually asked the court to have themselves chemically castrated.
    And kudos, but chemical castration is a continuous process and requires that the molester continue to receive medication (usually through a PO or monitoring program), which makes it easier for the molester to undo the effects of the medication.
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
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    Like a page from the novel 1984, the victims of forced sterilization lived through an Orwellian nightmare. Against their will, they were permanently sterilized. The decision was made by people they never met who believed that they were inferior, and should not be able to breed. Should these victims be compensated by the government? And what attempts, if any, should be made to prevent this from happening again?

    Another interesting question: are there instances when people should be forcefully sterilized?
    Yes, the victims should be compensated by the state. They were robbed of their ability to be parents at the very least, without due process, though I can think of no process that exists under the law that would give a state that right.

    It's often suggested that pedophiles and rapists be forceably sterilized, but I can't support that either, much as I would love to seek vengeance against them in that manner.
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    Re: Victims speak out about North Carolina sterilization program

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    There are people on this board that would agree with forced sterilization and have argued for it as of yesterday.

    I've heard about those instances though. It's sick that some boards acted as God and mandated who can have children and who can't. You'd think this story would of gotten more press because it's a pretty sickening situation.
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