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    We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies



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    narcotics detective snared in a corruption scandal testified it was common practice to fabricate drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas.The bombshell testimony from Stephen Anderson is the first public account of the twisted culture behind the false arrests in the Brooklyn South and Queens narc squads, which led to the arrests of eight cops and a massive shakeup.Anderson, testifying under a cooperation agreement with prosecutors, was busted for planting cocaine, a practice known as "flaking," on four men in a Queens bar in 2008 to help out fellow cop Henry Tavarez, whose buy-and-bust activity had been low."Tavarez was ... was worried about getting sent back [to patrol] and, you know, the supervisors getting on his case," he recounted at the corruption trial of Brooklyn South narcotics Detective Jason Arbeeny."I had decided to give him [Tavarez] the drugs to help him out so that he could say he had a buy," Anderson testified last week in Brooklyn Supreme Court.He made clear he wasn't about to pass off the two legit arrests he had made in the bar to Tavarez."As a detective, you still have a number to reach while you are in the narcotics division," he said.NYPD officials did not respond to a request for comment.




    Read more: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies - NY Daily NewsThis is interesting. Are the police becoming really as bad as the bad cop movies make it out to be? Are cops really this dirty? Is the war on drugs failing us? I think all of these questions can be answered with a yes.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    my impression is that the majority of cops never even think about doing stuff like this.

    however, these cops sure did. and yes, the drug war is a failure.

    arrest quotas of any kind should be banned by law.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

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    Read more: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies - NY Daily NewsThis is interesting. Are the police becoming really as bad as the bad cop movies make it out to be? Are cops really this dirty? Is the war on drugs failing us? I think all of these questions can be answered with a yes.

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    This is what is created when Command Staff personnel create quotas or expected goals for officers to meet.

    I blame the jokers in charge trying to impress the politicians in the city government.
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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    I am just glad they were caught.

    I suspect that there's wrongdoing which is not uncovered.
    I may be wrong.

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    This isn't surprising. It reminds me a lot of teachers who are caught changing answers on their students' standardized tests. Just like emphasis on "teaching to the test" leads to more cheating and less actual achievement, emphasis on "arresting to the quota" leads to more false arrests and less actual safety. There are a lot of problems with the leaders of government many of who really don't know what the hell they're doing and are more concerned with appearances than substance.

    While it's tempting to simply blame the cops in question, my awareness of pressure on teachers to cheat in the education system is making me cautious at placing all of the blame on the cops in this situation. I'm sure they got pressure from their superiors to make these arrests. It's a shame that those people probably won't be found out just like those who create the similar atmosphere in education won't ever be found out either.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies







    Read more: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies - NY Daily NewsThis is interesting. Are the police becoming really as bad as the bad cop movies make it out to be? Are cops really this dirty? Is the war on drugs failing us? I think all of these questions can be answered with a yes.

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    We need a total revamp of our legal, court, and law enforcement systems.

    This bull**** is tiresome. And bull****.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    This isn't surprising. It reminds me a lot of teachers who are caught changing answers on their students' standardized tests. Just like emphasis on "teaching to the test" leads to more cheating and less actual achievement, emphasis on "arresting to the quota" leads to more false arrests and less actual safety. There are a lot of problems with the leaders of government many of who really don't know what the hell they're doing and are more concerned with appearances than substance.

    While it's tempting to simply blame the cops in question, my awareness of pressure on teachers to cheat in the education system is making me cautious at placing all of the blame on the cops in this situation. I'm sure they got pressure from their superiors to make these arrests. It's a shame that those people probably won't be found out just like those who create the similar atmosphere in education won't ever be found out either.
    Which is why Ive made a rule for myself.
    No work in narcotics.... its a shady area.

    Some of the guys Ive worked with have run into situations where a supervisor demand they arrest someone and charge them with something that the officer disagrees upon meeting the elements of that particular crime.

    In their case, they just arrested them for the lower crime they committed and charged them with that and didn't tell the supervisor.

    In my case, I'll charge them with the higher crime, but list myself as the transporting officer and list the supervisor as the charging officer and put him down for court.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    So, remind me why drugs are criminalized? What's the advantage to doing this kind of stuff again?
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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    Quotas impress politicians because quotas produce high arrest numbers... high arrest numbers impress citizens, makes them feel safe... impressed politicians and citizens want to keep increasing budgets (or, at least maintain them)... increased or maintained budgets equal job security... it's a vicious circle.

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    Re: We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I am just glad they were caught.

    I suspect that there's wrongdoing which is not uncovered.
    There definitely is.
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