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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Sorry but I must have missed your answer or just didn't understand, please try again.

    What is an 'assmoing'?
    Yay the typo police are present and accounted for!

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

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    Yay the typo police are present and accounted for!
    Sorry, but I missed your answer again...I think...please try again.

    ps. About the typo, I figured it out after posting...sorry

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    What is an 'assmoing'?
    Another term for a Brazilian wax?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean that he has invested more in alternative energy, including nuclear, than any president in history?
    People make investments all the time, Liberal. Show me the results

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you mean the one failed company Solyndra,
    That's one failure, now share a success. That is why you're here, right? To defend Hussein's track record?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What has the GOP leadership in the 2010 Congress done except to continue the tax cuts for the rich?
    How about you just stay on task and answer the questions, first?
    Last edited by Sunbelt; 12-06-11 at 11:52 PM.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Is this just supposition or do you have evidence to support such a statement?
    It was part of the stimulus funding:

    "The Administration has invested more than $90 billion in clean energy – the largest clean energy investment in our nation’s history. These critical investments have already created or saved hundreds of thousands of jobs across the country and put the United States on a path to double renewable energy generation from 2008 levels by 2012. In fact, since 2008, more than 20,000 megawatts of new electric generating capacity from wind, solar and geothermal energy have come online, increasing installed capacity by more than 70 percent.

    One failed company?…try 4 and counting:
    Raser Technologies- Failed energy projects cross party lines
    Beacon Power Corp. and Nevada Geothermal - Financial turmoil grips two more
    Meh, new businesses sometimes fail, the reward at the end will be worth the small failures, unlike with the $3 trillion dollar mistake in Iraq.

    And as to Iraq being optional aren’t ALL wars optional?
    Not according to our Constitution, just ask Ron Paul, it only specifies war as a response to a direct threat. Iraq presented no such threat. That is why Ron Paul and a majority of Congressional Democrats voted against AOF.

    “On December 15, 2010, the Senate passed the compromise package with an 81–19 vote, with large majorities of both Democrats and Republicans supporting it. December 16, the House passed the measure on a vote of 277–148, with only a modest majority of Democrats but a large majority of Republicans voting for the package. The Washington Post called the approved deal "the most significant tax bill in nearly a decade". President Barack Obama signed the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, on December 17, 2010.”

    Sounds like the GOP leadership sat back and let the DEMOCRAT leadership pass the extension you speak of.
    How quickly some forget:

    GOP holds national security, jobless benefits, economy hostage for rich tax cuts

    Continue reading on Examiner.com GOP holds national security, jobless benefits, economy hostage for rich tax cuts - National liberal | Examiner.com GOP holds national security, jobless benefits, economy hostage for rich tax cuts - National liberal | Examiner.com
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbelt View Post
    People make investments all the time, Liberal. Show me the results
    R&D doesn't happen overnight, we should have started backed when we were warned by Nixon, Ford, & Carter that we were approaching peak oil in the US.

    That's one failure, now share a success. That is why you're here, right? To defend Hussein's track record?
    Here are just a few of the successes:

    "Southern Company subsidiary Georgia Power has formally agreed to accept a conditional federal loan guarantee for the construction of two new nuclear units at its Vogtle site.

    How Vogtle 3 and 4 are expected to look In February of this year, Vogtle units 3 and 4 became the first new nuclear power plant construction projects to be offered conditional loan guarantees by the US Department of Energy (DoE)."
    Georgia Power accepts Vogtle loan guarantee


    "President Barack Obama on Friday revealed ambitious plans to raise the corporate average fuel economy standard for cars and light trucks to 54.5 mpg by the 2025 model year, a landmark move that will dramatically remake carmakers' product portfolios and consumers' buying habits.

    Unlike the first CAFE standards passed by Congress in 1975, the Detroit automakers now publicly support the high requirements and have begun retooling their fleets to adapt the changes.

    [This] represents the single most important step we've ever taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,” Obama said in a morning press conference."

    Read more: CAFE standards set to rise to 54.5 mpg for 2025 - Autoweek


    "The third-oldest active military installation in Texas, Camp Mabry is on the leading edge of future renewable energy generation. Located near the Colorado River about three miles northwest of the Texas Capitol building, Camp Mabry is home to the Texas National Guard, the Texas State Guard, and a new 149-kilowatt grid-tied solar photovoltaic system.
    Installed on a carport structure adjacent to the camp headquarters, the solar energy system will generate 199 kilowatt-hours of non-polluting, renewable energy each year, offsetting a portion of the base’s current energy load. Once operational in September, the project will provide distributed renewable energy generation, while serving as a functional structural asset and an educational component providing daily insight about renewable energy to the base’s nearly 800 visitors and employees.

    New solar photovoltaic system installed on a Camp Mabry carport structure
    The annual energy cost savings from the solar projects is projected at $22,500, with a nine-year payback on Camp Mabry’s matching investment.
    The Distributed Renewable Energy Technology Program project was funded in part by federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act matching dollars awarded through a competitive process by the State Energy Conservation Office."
    SECO Stimulus | Success Stories: Distributed Renewable Energy Technology Program


    "Success Stories: Alternative Fuels Project
    City of Laredo
    Laredo has been welcoming visitors for more than 250 years, and is now welcoming a cleaner, greener future by upgrading the city’s compressed natural gas (CNG) refueling station.
    The alternative fuel project is funded in part with $924,000 in federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act matching funds awarded through a Transportation Efficiency Program: Alternative Fuels Project competitive process by SECO.
    “The compressed natural gas station will provide the Laredo Transit system with a clean, environmentally friendly local natural fuel, and also provide the opportunity for other entities to use the CNG fuel for a cleaner air quality,” says Riazul Mia, P.E., director of the Laredo Environmental Services Department."
    SECO Stimulus | Success Stories: Alternative Fuels Project

    BWP’s Smart Grid Program will Address Energy Needs of Burbank Residents More Efficiently and Effectively

    "DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security"

    Read more: DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security - FierceGovernmentIT DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security - FierceGovernmentIT
    Subscribe: Government Technology Newsletter - FierceGovernmentIT

    Glendale Water & Power Smart Grid Project Update November 7
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It was part of the stimulus funding:

    "The Administration has invested more than $90 billion in clean energy – the largest clean energy investment in our nation’s history.… In fact, since 2008, more than 20,000 megawatts of new electric generating capacity from wind, solar and geothermal energy have come online, increasing installed capacity by more than 70 percent.
    Where did you get this…whitehouse.gov? This is merely talking points supporting the stimulus package. How about some REAL data supporting this? And that last line, increase capacity by more than 70%...a 70% increase in 2% is still less than 4%...whoopeee BIG DEAL!



    Meh, new businesses sometimes fail, the reward at the end will be worth the small failures, unlike with the $3 trillion dollar mistake in Iraq.
    Nice dodge…Yes they do but your original claim was ‘one failed company Solyndra,’ . I posted reference to 4 with little effort. Why not admit your error and we’ll move on?



    Not according to our Constitution, just ask Ron Paul, it only specifies war as a response to a direct threat. Iraq presented no such threat. That is why Ron Paul and a majority of Congressional Democrats voted against AOF.
    Please quote EXACTLY where the Constitution MANDATES war? Without this wouldn’t it be optional? I agree, looking back now, that Iraq presented no threat but we all know about hindsight. The data I posted supported the ‘majority of Democrats’ voted AOF, so you concur? But consider that it DID pass Congress with more than paltry Democrat support.


    How quickly some forget:
    GOP holds national security, jobless benefits, economy hostage for rich tax cuts
    Nice spin, again…Oh, I remember very well. Is it your contention that the Democrats had no option? I thought then that the Democrats should have stuck to their guns and not conceded to the GOP. They would have won ultimately but in the end they DID pass the tax extension regardless of the reason.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Here are just a few of the successes:
    "President Barack Obama on Friday revealed ambitious plans to raise the corporate average fuel economy standard for cars and light trucks to 54.5 mpg by the 2025 model year, a landmark move that will dramatically remake carmakers' product portfolios and consumers' buying habits.

    [This] represents the single most important step we've ever taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,” Obama said in a morning press conference."
    Success…REALLY? This is merely a commitment to do something (“ambitious plans”). No success as you claim…yet.


    "…Installed on a carport structure adjacent to the camp headquarters, the solar energy system will generate 199 kilowatt-hours of non-polluting, renewable energy each year, …
    The annual energy cost savings from the solar projects is projected at $22,500, with a nine-year payback on Camp Mabry’s matching investment.
    I know you copy/pasted this but there seems to be some ambiguity in the article. 199kwh/year for $22,500/year? That works out to $113/kwh!!! Around here electricity cost $0.09/kwh but since the article is concerning costs on a military installation kinda makes sense.


    "Success Stories: Alternative Fuels Project
    City of Laredo
    “The compressed natural gas station will provide the Laredo Transit system with a clean, environmentally friendly local natural fuel, and also provide the opportunity for other entities to use the CNG fuel for a cleaner air quality,” says Riazul Mia, P.E., director of the Laredo Environmental Services Department."
    So Laredo converted it city transit system to CNG…USING STIMULUS DOLLARS. Nowhere in the article does it state that it is saving money. Please review your source and convince me how this is a measureable success…thx.


    "DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security"
    Again, collaboration does not equate success. Please review your source and advise the measurable success you claimed.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    R&D doesn't happen overnight, we should have started backed when we were warned by Nixon, Ford, & Carter that we were approaching peak oil in the US.



    Here are just a few of the successes:

    "Southern Company subsidiary Georgia Power has formally agreed to accept a conditional federal loan guarantee for the construction of two new nuclear units at its Vogtle site.

    How Vogtle 3 and 4 are expected to look In February of this year, Vogtle units 3 and 4 became the first new nuclear power plant construction projects to be offered conditional loan guarantees by the US Department of Energy (DoE)."
    Georgia Power accepts Vogtle loan guarantee


    "President Barack Obama on Friday revealed ambitious plans to raise the corporate average fuel economy standard for cars and light trucks to 54.5 mpg by the 2025 model year, a landmark move that will dramatically remake carmakers' product portfolios and consumers' buying habits.

    Unlike the first CAFE standards passed by Congress in 1975, the Detroit automakers now publicly support the high requirements and have begun retooling their fleets to adapt the changes.

    [This] represents the single most important step we've ever taken as a nation to reduce our dependence on foreign oil,” Obama said in a morning press conference."

    Read more: CAFE standards set to rise to 54.5 mpg for 2025 - Autoweek


    "The third-oldest active military installation in Texas, Camp Mabry is on the leading edge of future renewable energy generation. Located near the Colorado River about three miles northwest of the Texas Capitol building, Camp Mabry is home to the Texas National Guard, the Texas State Guard, and a new 149-kilowatt grid-tied solar photovoltaic system.
    Installed on a carport structure adjacent to the camp headquarters, the solar energy system will generate 199 kilowatt-hours of non-polluting, renewable energy each year, offsetting a portion of the base’s current energy load. Once operational in September, the project will provide distributed renewable energy generation, while serving as a functional structural asset and an educational component providing daily insight about renewable energy to the base’s nearly 800 visitors and employees.

    New solar photovoltaic system installed on a Camp Mabry carport structure
    The annual energy cost savings from the solar projects is projected at $22,500, with a nine-year payback on Camp Mabry’s matching investment.
    The Distributed Renewable Energy Technology Program project was funded in part by federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act matching dollars awarded through a competitive process by the State Energy Conservation Office."
    SECO Stimulus | Success Stories: Distributed Renewable Energy Technology Program


    "Success Stories: Alternative Fuels Project
    City of Laredo
    Laredo has been welcoming visitors for more than 250 years, and is now welcoming a cleaner, greener future by upgrading the city’s compressed natural gas (CNG) refueling station.
    The alternative fuel project is funded in part with $924,000 in federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act matching funds awarded through a Transportation Efficiency Program: Alternative Fuels Project competitive process by SECO.
    “The compressed natural gas station will provide the Laredo Transit system with a clean, environmentally friendly local natural fuel, and also provide the opportunity for other entities to use the CNG fuel for a cleaner air quality,” says Riazul Mia, P.E., director of the Laredo Environmental Services Department."
    SECO Stimulus | Success Stories: Alternative Fuels Project

    BWP’s Smart Grid Program will Address Energy Needs of Burbank Residents More Efficiently and Effectively

    "DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security"

    Read more: DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security - FierceGovernmentIT DOE: Interagency collaboration underway on smart grid security - FierceGovernmentIT
    Subscribe: Government Technology Newsletter - FierceGovernmentIT

    Glendale Water & Power Smart Grid Project Update November 7
    None of those are success stories. It is just more evidence of taxpayer money being pissed away by a President with no experience in these matters whatsoever.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    no

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    Exactly. Wars are not all optional. There are rules as to what constitutes a just war. Iraq cannot be seen in any just or valid light.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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