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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have to get over your Bush Derangement Syndrome and realize that the results shown are current and Bush had nothing to do with them. How long are you going to give this empty suit a pass.

    Again, I am waiting for you to explain why you want to support cuts in SS and Medicare since that is what is funded by payroll taxes, something you probably did not even know. I don't get what motivates you because you simply don't have a clue about facts and reality.
    So people keeping more of their money is no longer of concern to you?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Data doesn't confuse me. I'm just not going to bother to get you the facts/links to the real data because I have noticed you don't pay attention to it, but insist that your made up data is correct. The war in Iraq has not been won, there are still terrorists out there, and Iraq doesn't have a democracy to speak of, and were it not for Obama, Osama Bin Laden would have gotten away with 3000+ murders while your hero Bush, yawned when asked if he was going after him.

    Seems to me that Republicans can put the screws to the country, but you in your euphoric state, probably because you are not unemployed, didn't lose your home to foreclosure and are not suffering financially, not to mention, the fact that you don't care about those who did, will continue to sing their praises. Go figure.
    Made up data? You think BLS, BEA, and the U.S. Treasury makes up data? you cannot prove the data wrong and you know it.

    Your inability to hold "your" President accountable for results speaks volumes. Obviously you have never led anything and don't have a clue as to what leadership entails. Obama has demonized the producers and wealth creators while appealing to the ignorant, the unions, and the minorities. That doesn't bode well to the future of the country.

    You are right, I held a job for 35 years because I produced and I didn't lose my home in a foreclosure because I never spent more than I could afford. I am not suffering financially because I have always been accountable for what I spent. Never did I expect you or anyone else to bail me out if I made any mistakes. You see, I understand consequences for poor choices as I learned that growing up. Why didn't you?

    I don't think it is the Federal Tax Payers responsibility to help those in the local community that are in need. That is for the state, local communities, and charities. Where did you learn that was the role of the Federal government. You believe that you cannot help someone locally better than a politician in D.C?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So people keeping more of their money is no longer of concern to you?
    Never has been a concern of mine, what i s a concern of mine is taking money from the SS fund that is trillions in debt. Allow people to keep more of their income taxes. Why do you want to cut revenue to a fund that is already in debt?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Never has been a concern of mine, what i s a concern of mine is taking money from the SS fund that is trillions in debt. Allow people to keep more of their income taxes. Why do you want to cut revenue to a fund that is already in debt?
    I guess the wind changed directions

    You mean the increase in economic activity from tax cuts won't cover the difference?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I guess the wind changed directions

    You mean the increase in economic activity from tax cuts won't cover the difference?
    Why would it cover SS and Medicare payments since those are contributory expenses? You seem to be confused about SS and Medicare funding, not surprising

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Republicans haven't been in charge of Congress since January 2007 so not sure where you get that information. Again, why are your supporting a cut in SS and Medicare? Why do you think it is someone else's responsibility to pay for your SS and Medicare? isn't that why you "contributed" to SS and Medicare?

    As for tax increases, why? What is it about you keeping more of your own money that you have a problem with? Absolutely amazing that you and other liberals always care about revenue going to the govt. and never how that money is spent. The liberal elites keep their power because of people like you as you buy their bs.
    The country could have fared a lot better had it not been since 2010, when the Republicans took the house and made it impossible for most bills that would help the economy, the country and the unemployed, so, I get my information from real life.

    And I am not supporting a cut in SS and Medicare. I'm supporting an end to the Bush Tax cuts. Why are you supporting the end of the payroll tax cut that will put $1k in middle-class people's bank and boost the economy? There's other ways to pay for things other than the Republican's way, which always includes protecting the wealthy's tax cuts. Even some Republicans are beginning to give a little on that issue, so what are you going to do if they do? Come up with another spin?

    Democrats plan to propose paying for the extension with a surtax on millionaires, which Republicans oppose
    Payroll Tax Cut Big Question Mark as Congress Returns | FDL News Desk



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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why would it cover SS and Medicare payments since those are contributory expenses? You seem to be confused about SS and Medicare funding, not surprising
    So now tax cuts don't pay for theme selves, correct?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    The country could have fared a lot better had it not been since 2010, when the Republicans took the house and made it impossible for most bills that would help the economy, the country and the unemployed, so, I get my information from real life.

    And I am not supporting a cut in SS and Medicare. I'm supporting an end to the Bush Tax cuts. Why are you supporting the end of the payroll tax cut that will put $1k in middle-class people's bank and boost the economy? There's other ways to pay for things other than the Republican's way, which always includes protecting the wealthy's tax cuts. Even some Republicans are beginning to give a little on that issue, so what are you going to do if they do? Come up with another spin?

    Democrats plan to propose paying for the extension with a surtax on millionaires, which Republicans oppose
    Payroll Tax Cut Big Question Mark as Congress Returns | FDL News Desk
    How do you explain the poor results from 2009-2010? Did Obama just take office in 2011 when the Republicans took the House? Where was the 2010 and 2011 budgets that the Democrat Congress was supposed to pass but didn't? I don't think you get your information from real life but instead from leftwing sites, BEA, BLS, and Treasury aren't leftwing sites

    You didn't say you were for ending the Bush tax cuts. Obama extended them in the lame duck Congress when Democrats were in charge. The payroll tax cuts cut funding for SS and Medicare. Where is that money going to come from when you retire? Why would you proposing cutting funding for a program that is already trillions in debt? We have had a payroll tax cut the last year and economic growth is less than 2% and we 2 million more unemployed than when the payroll taxes were higher so where is the economic benefit?

    The Democrats are continuing to promote class warfare and people like you buy the rhetoric without thinking. How do you put 25 million unemployed/under employed Americans back to work full time by raising taxes on anyone? How much revenue is going to come from a tax increase on those evil rich people and what effect will that have on the people they employ? That isn't going to pass and Democrats are not going to win the class warfare battle. people get it as evidenced by the 2010 and 2011 elections.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So now tax cuts don't pay for theme selves, correct?
    What funds SS and Medicare? What effect does economic growth have on SS and Medicare funding? Do corporate and individual income taxes go towards SS and Medicare?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you calling for repeal of ALL the Bush tax cuts? If so, then you have a better case although I do not buy the 6 trillion dollar number nor does the article. It does appear that you didn't even read it. Everything posted is estimates, where are the actual numbers? Where are the billions of dollars of revenue coming from the new jobs created counted and the benefits from the 4.5 trillion GDP growth? Amazingly any growth is left out of the projections.

    The problem today remains the unemployed not paying full taxes and the 47% of income earning households aren't paying any Federal Income Taxes yet your focus is only on the rich. That is nothing more than class warfare and jealousy. It serves no purpose as you don't have any idea what that will do to the economy and thus govt. revenue.
    Per usual you provide zero documentation to refute the facts, but then no one was expecting you to do that anyway so you have not disappointed.
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