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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, that's not true. Markets don't work that way. Where there is a buyer, there will be a seller. If your view was correct, we'd have people with a lot of money standing around with nothing to buy. It doesn't work that way.

    And with no EPA, for example, do you believe the evinoment will get along just fine. I mean like it did when rivers caught on fire, and LA was too poluted to breath the air? Not having regulations has consequences. Business does not alway, if ever, police itself.

    Again, if you think they control the economy, it is you who is arguing that government is the answer. Not liberals. You.
    Do you not get the news in Iowa? People are sitting around holding their cash because of the poor leadership of this Administration. People and businesses are keeping their cash and will until this Administration is fired.

    Didn't say no EPA, every state has an EPA, what do they do? You put a lot of faith in the Federal Govt. overseeing 50 states so what exactly do they do?

    We have enough regulations on the books, where is the enforcement. We have a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt today and apparently that isn't enough for you. You really are naive and don't seem to understand the role of the Federal and State Governments. I support states rights and not the massive central govt we have today. I gave you the solution, you ignored it.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you not get the news in Iowa? People are sitting around holding their cash because of the poor leadership of this Administration. People and businesses are keeping their cash and will until this Administration is fired.

    Didn't say no EPA, every state has an EPA, what do they do? You put a lot of faith in the Federal Govt. overseeing 50 states so what exactly do they do?

    We have enough regulations on the books, where is the enforcement. We have a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal Govt today and apparently that isn't enough for you. You really are naive and don't seem to understand the role of the Federal and State Governments. I support states rights and not the massive central govt we have today. I gave you the solution, you ignored it.
    No they're not. That's just you drinking the koolaid again. Business never spends without a buyer. You can tax cut them until hell freezes over, and if people aren't spending, they won't spend. You have the process backwards.

    As for the EPA, states were in control back when rivers caught on fire and air was unfit to breath. Things are better now for a reason.

    As for enforcement, care to predict how much influence a local business might have with a local government concerning enforcement? We do have history you know.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No they're not. That's just you drinking the koolaid again. Business never spends without a buyer. You can tax cut them until hell freezes over, and if people aren't spending, they won't spend. You have the process backwards.

    As for the EPA, states were in control back when rivers caught on fire and air was unfit to breath. Things are better now for a reason.

    As for enforcement, care to predict how much influence a local business might have with a local government concerning enforcement? We do have history you know.
    Arguing with you is a waste of time. You are out of touch with reality and don't understand how business works.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Arguing with you is a waste of time. You are out of touch with reality and don't understand how business works.
    Back to step 5 again I see?


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then you should not be wasting yours, and everyone else's time in a message board. I would have to say that 90% of what is given is opinion driven by the MSM in some sort or another. And since this opinion is what you seem to have disdain for, then you are really doing little here but derision.

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    Oh - I find plenty of educated people to discuss things with everywhere. Do you yourself spend time having learned discussionsions with parrots? If so, that is very democratic of you, but I myself prefer people.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Oh - I find plenty of educated people to discuss things with everywhere. Do you yourself spend time having learned discussionsions with parrots? If so, that is very democratic of you, but I myself prefer people.
    OK, I'm a bad forum member. I laughed.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Business never spends without a buyer.
    If your point is that if a business' product is not desired you're right and if it did spend it wouldn't for long as it would go bankrupt. But if the product is desirable then yes they do spend on increasing inventory to a level they predict on future sales. No there is not a point of sale buyer but yes there will be, presumably.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    If your point is that if a business' product is not desired you're right and if it did spend it wouldn't for long as it would go bankrupt. But if the product is desirable then yes they do spend on increasing inventory to a level they predict on future sales. No there is not a point of sale buyer but yes there will be, presumably.
    Exactly, prediction of future sales. They have to have a reasonable expectation that there will be people willing and able to buy. When the economy is down, there is concern about that, and there is reluctance to grow. Tax cuts won't overcome that reluctance.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    I noted early on that Obama would not be able to benefit from this. I imagine their popularity is about to take another major hit when they step up their attacks on Obama. I'm glad to see them finally get around to the other side of the problem.

    Perhaps, thinking about this, this might give them a slight bump from the other side.

    10:06 p.m. | Updated More than 100 Occupy Wall Street protesters marched to a Midtown hotel on Wednesday night to protest a fund-raising event for President Obama.

    Escorted by police vehicles as they helped snarl traffic across the Times Square area, beginning at Bryant Park, the group settled in front of barricades on the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue, in view of the Sheraton hotel at which Mr. Obama was expected to appear by 9 p.m.

    Demonstrators held signs that leveled some of the Occupy protest’s most pointed criticism to date of the president. “Obama is a corporate puppet,” one said. “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.


    Occupy Protesters Mobilize for Obama's Visit - NYTimes.com

    Despite some bumpy spots, I'm still hanging in there.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I noted early on that Obama would not be able to benefit from this. I imagine their popularity is about to take another major hit when they step up their attacks on Obama. I'm glad to see them finally get around to the other side of the problem.

    Perhaps, thinking about this, this might give them a slight bump from the other side.

    10:06 p.m. | Updated More than 100 Occupy Wall Street protesters marched to a Midtown hotel on Wednesday night to protest a fund-raising event for President Obama.

    Escorted by police vehicles as they helped snarl traffic across the Times Square area, beginning at Bryant Park, the group settled in front of barricades on the southwest corner of 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue, in view of the Sheraton hotel at which Mr. Obama was expected to appear by 9 p.m.

    Demonstrators held signs that leveled some of the Occupy protest’s most pointed criticism to date of the president. “Obama is a corporate puppet,” one said. “War crimes must be stopped, no matter who does them,” read another, beside head shots of President George W. Bush and President Obama.


    Occupy Protesters Mobilize for Obama's Visit - NYTimes.com

    Despite some bumpy spots, I'm still hanging in there.

    Glad to have the OWS as surrogate progressives to primary the centrist Obama, otherwise many of the progressive issues would not have been voiced during the campaign.
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