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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Question for you...

    Are you equating the 18 months of private sector job growth to Obama's policies or simply the economy bouncing back on its own?

    Similarly, if you equate the 18 months of private sector job growth to Obama's policies, do you attribute the 52 months of job growth under Bush to his policies or simply to the economy functioning on its own?
    It's not an either-or proposition. I think that Obama made most of the right calls to prevent the economy from sliding into a depression or more prolonged recession, so I give him credit for that. But I also think that government generally has limited power to move the economy, so some of the change was inevitable.

    Same goes for Bush. I think that the real estate bubble and associated job growth was fueled in part by excess liquidity from his tax cuts in conjunction with a loose money supply that he did not discourage. It was also dependant on lax regulatory enforcement and the non-regulation of derivatives trading, which he did nothing to address. And the deficits Bush ran up have hamstrung Obama in responding to the recession. Out of that group I would assign less blame for regulatory enforcement and non-regulation because few people were sounding the alarm prior to the real estate bust. But in short, I would say that he contributed to 52 months of jobs growth, but those same contributions contributed to recession that wiped out the jobs growth.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh come on man...Are we devolved to this drivel?


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    Im just trying to go off the process of thought of the right wing.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, then I am sure you would be easily able to type something other than constant condemnations, and derision about your fellow posters in here, and come up with some enlightening pronouncements that lead everyone to have that ah ha moment.

    Care to share, or just take the easy road and bitch about others?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I have never, as far I know, ever condemned or derided others - only the half-baked opinions they borrow from their masters. I do not admire master or slaves.
    Then you should not be wasting yours, and everyone else's time in a message board. I would have to say that 90% of what is given is opinion driven by the MSM in some sort or another. And since this opinion is what you seem to have disdain for, then you are really doing little here but derision.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then you should not be wasting yours, and everyone else's time in a message board. I would have to say that 90% of what is given is opinion driven by the MSM in some sort or another. And since this opinion is what you seem to have disdain for, then you are really doing little here but derision.

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    MSM? Funny stuff that. Funny stuff.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then you should not be wasting yours, and everyone else's time in a message board. I would have to say that 90% of what is given is opinion driven by the MSM in some sort or another. And since this opinion is what you seem to have disdain for, then you are really doing little here but derision.

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    Yeah, that's what they said on Fox & Friends so it must be true.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If government has a huge effect on business, then government is the answer. You can't have it both ways.
    Huge? Well you tell me....

    Obama's disastrous energy policy
    Obama energy policy: The president is leading us to slow national suicide - Baltimore Sun

    Lack of Jobs Increasingly Blamed on Uncertainty Created by Obama’s Policies
    Lack of Jobs Increasingly Blamed on Uncertainty Created by Obama

    Obama job plan may slow corporate jet business
    Obama job plan may slow corporate jet business - Business First

    Regulation ad Absurdum
    Regulation ad Absurdum | Hoover Institution

    How many voices would you like Joe? Maybe you can google Krugman who hasn't been right yet...

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, that's what they said on Fox & Friends so it must be true.
    Someone has to combat your steady regurgitation of Chrissy Hissy Fit Matthews.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Huge? Well you tell me....

    Obama's disastrous energy policy
    Obama energy policy: The president is leading us to slow national suicide - Baltimore Sun

    Lack of Jobs Increasingly Blamed on Uncertainty Created by Obama’s Policies
    Lack of Jobs Increasingly Blamed on Uncertainty Created by Obama

    Obama job plan may slow corporate jet business
    Obama job plan may slow corporate jet business - Business First

    Regulation ad Absurdum
    Regulation ad Absurdum | Hoover Institution

    How many voices would you like Joe? Maybe you can google Krugman who hasn't been right yet...

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    Do you even look at what you're citing? Seriously.

    Nothing up there is any better than the American thinker. The Heartland institute? Do you know who they are and how much credibility they lack? And you have the nerve to whinme about the MSM?



    J, you need credible voices. You need real and reasonable voices. You need to put the koolaid down, stop drinking the liberal hyperbole, the wild generalizations, the partisan silliness, and seek something that actually makes a valid case.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    BTW, You too j are arguing government is the answer. I linked soemthing for you a while back that you didn't respond to where an econimst argued if you really believed what you're spouting, you'd argue for more government spending. You might go back and revisit that article.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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