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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But we have already established that 2/3 of Americans agree with me on issues of concern about income distribution and the things that you claim do not exist or are not a problem.


    Poll: U.S. wealth gap unfair - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com





    Read more: Poll: U.S. wealth gap unfair - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

    So try again when the facts are on your side.
    Class warfare works. It begins with income taxes, the progressive income taxes, the demonizing the successful, the claiming the top 1% don't pay their fair share...then Obama's Brown Shirts take to the street. And viola, if good people do nothing freedom is gone.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm sure all they want is that opportunity.
    Really? You are sure they ALL want it? Remember when this started out and a reporter asked if an executive came out there right at that moment and offered them a job if they would take it, and they said NO!.....But you are sure right?



    but you are sure....


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Class warfare works. It begins with income taxes, the progressive income taxes, the demonizing the successful, the claiming the top 1% don't pay their fair share...then Obama's Brown Shirts take to the street. And viola, if good people do nothing freedom is gone.
    this post is so full of talking points it's going to get its own fox tv show.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Come on J-mac....it's pretty obvious to anybody that those guys are doing some form of counter protests to the occupy crowd which is why the lady comes up and points out that you can't feed a family on the majority of those adds.

    The fact is, beyond partisan stunts like this (I can show you plenty of people going around making Tea Partiers look like idiots and racists) there are many more unemployed people than jobs in this country. Maybe if we had low unemployment rates you could make the argument that people just don't want to work. The fact is most people are stuck with part time jobs so the number of unemployed and underemployed is huge in this country.

    You worked at a job and moved up the ranks. Cases like yours is what made this country great. The fact the new generation isn't experiencing that is a shame and you'd think you support them getting their opportunity.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    this post is so full of talking points it's going to get its own fox tv show.
    Cool. Whose talking points do you think they belong to?

    And do you disagree with any of them. Or are you just typing...?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Things are markedly different than when I was younger. Mostly because we're in the midst a of a global economic crisis. Not joking.

    When I was a younger man, the ratio of job seekers to jobs available remained pretty close to 1:1 and most people found a new job in less than 5 weeks. That's just not the case now. Last I looked, which wasn't that recently, the ratio is closer to 5:1 and it takes about 13 weeks for more than half of the seekers to have found a job. That's just one example of many.
    Things aren't like they were when I was in my 20s and early 30s.

    But, that why it's a crisis.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Cool. Whose talking points do you think they belong to?

    And do you disagree with any of them. Or are you just typing...?
    why, the republicans, of course. obama brown shirts? demonizing the successful? dems don't demonize the successful. we don't demonize the rich. just as tea partiers want tax reform, so do dems. i want the upper classes to pay a bit more, including cap gains at an earned income level, so we don't have to raise taxes on those who can least afford it. i want the ss limit on contributions raised.

    none of that is demonizing anyone. there WILL be class warfare if the richest among us continue to treat their fellow citizens as chattel. when the middle class goes away, there will be hell to pay. at that point the great experiment that is our country will have failed.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nice try. you proved nothing. Good God. if that is all one needs to prove something, or someone wrong is some shill that they agree with, then I would say you haven't won a debate yet.

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    Again: you in post #31

    Actually, class warfare is a common way for budding socialist regimes to rise to power. And the liberal left has been beating that drum for a long time....got your Che t-shirt on?
    So your position is that class warfare is a common tactic of the left.

    Warren Buffett, a rich billionaire capitalist loudly proclaims that the class warfare going on in America is waged by his class on the working class.

    Sorry but that loud buzzer going BBBBBZZZZZTTTTT has two messages for you:
    1) you failed to substantiate your personal opinion and I gave you evidence you were clearly wrong by a full 180 degrees in the opposite direction
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    I stated this about class warfare in America


    Now thats sweet of you to say. Except he is the American capitalist personified and admits that his class has been waging war against the rest of us for a long time and they are winning. So you can call him any name in the book and invent some of your own - but, in the end, a billionaire admits to class warfare from the top down and that utterly obliterates your denial of the same concept.
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    He lies. You buy it. Got it.
    So we here should take the word of.... you... over the word of an elite upper class billionaire who actually has benefitted personally and knows the insides and outs of this sytem far better than any common person ever would?

    Sorry. Not gonna happen.

    When it comes to knowing how to game the system through class warfare against the working man, the elite rich know it better than anybody and they have banks of evidence to prove it.

    What do you have to support the opposite claim besides your own belief system?
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Things are markedly different than when I was younger. Mostly because we're in the midst a of a global economic crisis. Not joking.

    When I was a younger man, the ratio of job seekers to jobs available remained pretty close to 1:1 and most people found a new job in less than 5 weeks. That's just not the case now. Last I looked, which wasn't that recently, the ratio is closer to 5:1 and it takes about 13 weeks for more than half of the seekers to have found a job. That's just one example of many.
    Things aren't like they were when I was in my 20s and early 30s.

    But, that why it's a crisis.
    Eliminate all government departments and agencies that are extra-constitutional. Eliminate nearly all of the 80,000 regulations that all businesses are burdened with. Cut the corporate tax rate to guarantee it is the lowest in the first world. Tar and feather the bureaucrats and run them out of polite society and there will be plenty of jobs. As we get closer to Europen-style Socialism (a very bad thing) we are getting the same results they get.

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