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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, even the question of "right" or "wrong" is subjective. I think it is interesting to have these conversations, rather than the usual black and white conversations. If that were the only reason to have an opinion, then boards like this wouldn't have any use would they?

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    I think conversations between those who have reasons for their opinions are always productive. Those who just - in effect - bleat slogans are not worth hearing, and the question of what most of them 'think' seems of no very great interest except in Media Studies, if there.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Out of the two idiot traps
    This is a prime example that gives away the so called "moderates" that think somehow they are above those out there that make up the "working class". Calling people idiots never works for any solution, and serves to divide. So after this opening to set up your self fulfilling prophecy of divided extremes, why should anyone read beyond this 6 word opening to your post?

    I think OWS is the better of the two but like how I believe the Tea Partiers are idiots for believing their taxes will go up
    Really? Tell me, if the President and congressional drones talk about $250K being the threshold, but all indications are that nothing will be done to extend the current tax rates under the Bush plan, which would raise rates for everyone, not just those with higher earnings, then we are being lied to are we not? I have already shown where my taxes would go up by some $3k + should this happen, and I am nowhere near $250K brother.

    In fact, taxes that hit me in every facet of life. Gas prices up, Food up, Home energy up, other goods and services all up due to different tax and regulation that this administration has dropped in under the radar. They are crooks, and liars, and destined to be swept out with the trash in about a year if we can hold on.

    (they won't would have gone down if the people they voted for in Congress voted for it)
    Could you clarify this please?

    and want to reign in government spending but hell no don't touch their medicare and social security
    I've got some news for ya. Since I was the age of 16 and worked at a job that was paid for by writing a check that taxes came out of, I paid into these systems, with the promise that they were going to be there when I got old enough to retire. Now, because these thieves over the years have stolen that money, I have to be demonized for wanting them to make good on their promise, and all that money I have put in is just gone? Oh and BTW, I am not rich at all. In fact, at 49 I am just now within the recent years making above the median income in the country, so think before you type some snark back at me thinking I am rich or something.

    in the same light the OWS people do equally asinine things. A guy holding up an American flag (with the stars being corporate logos) will be doing it while tweeting on his iPod and drinking Starbucks. THAT'S an asshole.
    Marxism is unashamed of its hypocrisy.

    Many of these people want more than just say, what the Germans or Japanese have they want it without hard work.

    Germans or Japanese? Are you kidding? Japan is still dealing with their own lost decade with stimulus after stimulus that failed, and Germany is poised to go down with the Euro in as little as 2 weeks if nothing is done, and you think that what we want?


    I've worked with Japanese and Germans and they don't **** around.
    America has the hardest working educated workforce in the world.

    Hey, sure they got great benefits but the world doesn't go round with everyone working 32 hour work weeks.
    Who's doing that? I work 60 to 70 hrs per week. I think you have it backwards.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I think conversations between those who have reasons for their opinions are always productive. Those who just - in effect - bleat slogans are not worth hearing, and the question of what most of them 'think' seems of no very great interest except in Media Studies, if there.
    It seems quite presumptive of you to judge others reasons over an anonymous message board. Are you psychic? Or just conceded?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It seems quite presumptive of you to judge others reasons over an anonymous message board. Are you psychic? Or just conceded?


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    'Conceited'? No - it is the fact that the brainwashed all say much the same thing in much the same words about what is currently being put about by the Noise Machine. And when challenged they turn to abuse, racial or national.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    'Conceited'? No - it is the fact that the brainwashed all say much the same thing in much the same words about what is currently being put about by the Noise Machine. And when challenged they turn to abuse, racial or national.
    You're incredibly conceited.
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I hope they will vote out the Republicans, but it's anyone's guess. I'm no fan of unions, but corporate America is making a pretty good case for them.
    So driving out business benefits whom? Vote out the Republicans like the electorate did in 2009? How did that work out for the country? The results speak for themselves but you ignore them.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not even counting the lost revenues from the Reagan tax cuts to the rich or his increased military spending, add the $2.8 trillion dollars in lost revenue the Bush tax cuts cost us from inception to date (see reference above), the $3 trillion the unfunded wars cost us, not to mention the cost of Tarp and Stimulus to prevent another depression from the deregulation.
    I see, so you believe 17 million jobs would have been created without the tax cuts? Prove it? 2.8 trillion dolars lost due to the Bush tax cuts? Prove it? You seem to think tax cuts are an expense to the govt. That if foolish. You make wild speculation but no verifiable non partisan proof of your statements.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You're incredibly conceited.
    Not according to anyone who knows me, happily. If I am, I shall just have humbly to live with it!

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    'Conceited'? No - it is the fact that the brainwashed all say much the same thing in much the same words about what is currently being put about by the Noise Machine. And when challenged they turn to abuse, racial or national.

    Ok, then I am sure you would be easily able to type something other than constant condemnations, and derision about your fellow posters in here, and come up with some enlightening pronouncements that lead everyone to have that ah ha moment.

    Care to share, or just take the easy road and bitch about others?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The discussion was about Federal Income taxes and funding for the Federal Govt which comes out of that money. That is intellectual dishonesty all trying to make a point which is wrong.
    No it wasn't. Go back and re-read. You tend to try and change the discussion when your trapped.

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