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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I thought tax cuts were incentive to grow? Now you're saying they aren't?

    But, you see, something other than taxes effected growth. Something other than anything government does if you want to be technincal. We cycle all the time. Always have. If you think government is the naswer, you're likely wrong.
    Same answer, there is nothing to prevent you from sending in more of your money to the govt. Stop being a hypocrite and do it.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Same answer, there is nothing to prevent you from sending in more of your money to the govt. Stop being a hypocrite and do it.
    You do realize, you have no idea what I send or don't send.

    But, let's not distract. Try to address the issue we're discussing if you can.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    not the results I see, but then again you choose what you want to see and believe. Absolutely amazing how much passion you have for the govt. getting more of your money. Do us all a favor, send more of it to the govt. and get your friends to do it rather than spread your misery equally to everyone else.
    Sorry, but you can't change the data because you want to see something different.

    "As can be seen in the second table and graph, real individual income tax receipts declined 25.06% from 2001 to 2009. Even total receipts declined -13.93% over that period. Finally, real GDP grew just 13.36% from 2001 to 2009. This was the lowest real GDP growth over any 8-year span since 13.33% from 1966 to 1976."

    Effect of the Reagan, Kennedy, and Bush Tax Cuts

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You do realize, you have no idea what I send or don't send.

    But, let's not distract. Try to address the issue we're discussing if you can.
    The issue is tax revenue and who needs it more, the Federal Govt. or the taxpayers. In addition the issue is what people do with their money and what affect that has on the economy. Still waiting for you to explain why Govt. revenue grew after the Reagan tax cuts and how 17 million jobs were created.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sorry, but you can't change the data because you want to see something different.

    "As can be seen in the second table and graph, real individual income tax receipts declined 25.06% from 2001 to 2009. Even total receipts declined -13.93% over that period. Finally, real GDP grew just 13.36% from 2001 to 2009. This was the lowest real GDP growth over any 8-year span since 13.33% from 1966 to 1976."

    Effect of the Reagan, Kennedy, and Bush Tax Cuts
    You cannot explain either why Federal Income tax revenue grew after the tax cuts and what affect those cuts had on economic growth. What you fail to recognize is that 2001 was a recession and 2008 was a recession and that cost the economy taxpayers and tax revenue. You have a real passion for higher taxes so what are you doing to help the govt. get more revenue? Sending in more to the govt than required?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You cannot explain either why Federal Income tax revenue grew after the tax cuts and what affect those cuts had on economic growth. What you fail to recognize is that 2001 was a recession and 2008 was a recession and that cost the economy taxpayers and tax revenue. You have a real passion for higher taxes so what are you doing to help the govt. get more revenue? Sending in more to the govt than required?
    Why do you keep repeating the lie that revenue grew after the tax cuts, when the data clearly shows that revenue FELL after the tax cuts and did not recover to pre-tax-cut levels for five years?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You cannot explain either why Federal Income tax revenue grew after the tax cuts...
    how many years after Bush's tax-cuts did it take for revenue to finally grow again?

    FACT: Clinton increased revenue by 75% over his 8 years. Bush increased revenue by 28% over his 8 years.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why do you keep repeating the lie that revenue grew after the tax cuts, when the data clearly shows that revenue FELL after the tax cuts and did not recover to pre-tax-cut levels for five years?
    Because tax revenue did grow as the U.S. Treasury Dept shows. The last installment of the Bush tax cuts went into effect July 2003. Reagan's tax cuts didn't go into effect until fiscal year 1982. You have yet to explain how tax revenue grew after those tax cuts were fully implemented. what are you doing with your Bush tax cut today? How about sending it back, if you are working and not a student.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how many years after Bush's tax-cuts did it take for revenue to finally grow again?

    FACT: Clinton increased revenue by 75% over his 8 years. Bush increased revenue by 28% over his 8 years.
    Clinton added 1.55 trillion to the debt in 8 years. Here are the Bush FIT revenue numbers and his tax cuts didn't help the taxpayers until 2002

    2001 2163.7
    2002 2002.1
    2003 2047.9
    2004 2213.2
    2005 2546.8
    2006 2807.4
    2007 2951.2
    2008 2790.3

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how many years after Bush's tax-cuts did it take for revenue to finally grow again?

    FACT: Clinton increased revenue by 75% over his 8 years. Bush increased revenue by 28% over his 8 years.
    I like this one coming up all over the place. Essentially, it's saying that Bush increased revenue 28% over his predecessor's success rate.
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