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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Actually, class warfare is a common way for budding socialist regimes to rise to power. And the liberal left has been beating that drum for a long time....got your Che t-shirt on?


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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is irrelevant what he might come out and say if he lived in your world. The fact is that you claimed one thing about the reality of class warfare and a very wealthy rich American billionaire stands up and tells you that you do not know what you are talking about since he sees it and his side is waging it successfully against the working people.

    That is the point.

    I do not care what you care or do not care about. I do not care if you feel a need to call your ideological enemies silly names.

    This is debate. It is enough for me that you were proven wrong.

    If you expressing your innermost feelings and expressing them with name calling makes you feel better and heals your wounds from getting beat so badly on the actual issues being debated, that is your right.

    Nice try. you proved nothing. Good God. if that is all one needs to prove something, or someone wrong is some shill that they agree with, then I would say you haven't won a debate yet.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    No massively unequal power/wealth distrubtions have paved the way for socialists regimes.
    Cry me a river. I worked my up the chain, why can't they?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Cry me a river. I worked my up the chain, why can't they?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so what you are saying is in the method to track median incomes, and disparities.
    I am not sure what your sentence means. I apologize for that. But, as such, I can't say one way or the other if that's what I am saying. I suspect it's not though.
    I am pointing out that the phrase "income distribution" doesn't have to mean that income is centrally distributed any more than "age distribution" has to mean that age is centrally distributed or than "precipitation distribution" means all rain comes from the same cloud.
    As such, there actually is such a thing as a distribution of income even though it was not distributed by a single entity.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So then tell me how would you plan to distribute income more fairly, taking for the moment that it doesn't involve any central planning?
    I have no such plan. Not really interested in making one either.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Is Obama Marxist? Or is he a Nazi?
    You're getting your stuff all mixed up.
    You are so limited. I will try to keep your limitations in mind for future posts.

    Obama is Marxist. His Brown Shirts (clear reference to Hitler's thugs) are the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

    As organized labor gets more involved we will see greater levels of thuggery.

    If you have difficulty in the future please bring it to my attention. I will gladly help you out now that I see your limitation.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is there a difference other than degree of totalitarianism?


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    Simon is asking a reasonable question given his clear inability to follow the relationship between one political leader's thugs (Hitler's) and the one term Marxist's (Obama's).

    I think the simple move from one kind of politician to another confuses him. I plan to help hem when and where I can.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You are so limited. I will try to keep your limitations in mind for future posts.
    Sweet. You spent time thinking about me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Obama is Marxist. His Brown Shirts (clear reference to Hitler's thugs) are the Occupy Wall Street crowd.
    Which led to the question I asked in the previous post.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course you do. This sort of opinion is an excellent example of the attitude being pushed by the authoritatians of the libertarian right who beat their chests loudly and scream such cliche platitudes as LIBERTY and FREEDOM as their badge of honor. Sadly, they only believe in such words when they apply to themselves and only themselves. For their ideological enemies, they do a bad imitation of the Queen in Wonderland and repeat over and over and over again "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS".

    The really nice thing about this OWS episode is that it completely and utterly exposed the man behind the right wing libertarian curtain as an old humbug. Long after it ends, we will still have the satisfaction of all of you exposing your true feelings on the FREEDOM issue. And that is very satisfying.
    So let's see. I said "Personally I think a large number of arrests and prison time are appropriate." And you clearly disagree. I believe that people who are vandals, people who are arsonists, people who trespass on private property should pay the price. And you disagree. Noted.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Now thats sweet of you to say. Except he is the American capitalist personified and admits that his class has been waging war against the rest of us for a long time and they are winning. So you can call him any name in the book and invent some of your own - but, in the end, a billionaire admits to class warfare from the top down and that utterly obliterates your denial of the same concept.
    He lies. You buy it. Got it.
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