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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Not a dime, tax cuts grew revenue
    In fairy land possibly. Here in the US: "Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!"

    "By comparison, please note that Democratic President Bill Clinton increased the National Debt by less than $18 Billion in his ENTIRE LAST YEAR in office! At the rate that the Clinton administration was reducing the debt increases, an Al Gore administration would have almost paid off the entire National Debt by 2008! We would have had EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS OF DEBT DECREASES!!! A far cry from what Bush and the Republicans gave us.

    Bill Clinton steadily reduced the debt increase while he was in office, thanks largely to the 1993 Debt Reduction Act* that was OPPOSED BY EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN CONGRESS, led by Newt Gingrich! The Republicans claimed that the Debt Reduction Act would result in HIGHER deficits and also result in an economic recession during President Clinton's term. Obviously, with hindsight they were completely wrong. Republicans don't seem to be very good at math, or economics.

    Now, after 20 years of huge Republican deficits and Republican recessions, the National Debt has increased from $937 Billion -- LESS than $1 Trillion -- the day Ronald Reagan took office to ALMOST $10 TRILLION!!! The Debt has increased more than TEN TIMES what it was when Ronald Reagan promised to reduce the National Debt by 1983! We and our children and their children will be paying off the debt added by Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush for the next 100 years and more! For what !?!? Services have been cut across America. Police and Fire Departments haven't grown nearly as fast as our population. Even the number of troops in the military has been cut while military spending has skyrocketed!"
    Increases in the National Debt Chart
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I am curious. Why are polices that favor business (using tax dollars to benefit business) are American, but any policy that favors workers is unAmerican?

    America has had polices that effected both from the very begining.
    Could it have anything to do with the income has been earned by the companies and they get to keep more of what they already earned? You seem to believe it is the government's money that goes to companies in subsidies.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In fairy land possibly. Here in the US: "Our National Debt is up Three Trillion Dollars under George W. Bush!"

    "By comparison, please note that Democratic President Bill Clinton increased the National Debt by less than $18 Billion in his ENTIRE LAST YEAR in office! At the rate that the Clinton administration was reducing the debt increases, an Al Gore administration would have almost paid off the entire National Debt by 2008! We would have had EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS OF DEBT DECREASES!!! A far cry from what Bush and the Republicans gave us.

    Bill Clinton steadily reduced the debt increase while he was in office, thanks largely to the 1993 Debt Reduction Act* that was OPPOSED BY EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN CONGRESS, led by Newt Gingrich! The Republicans claimed that the Debt Reduction Act would result in HIGHER deficits and also result in an economic recession during President Clinton's term. Obviously, with hindsight they were completely wrong. Republicans don't seem to be very good at math, or economics.

    Now, after 20 years of huge Republican deficits and Republican recessions, the National Debt has increased from $937 Billion -- LESS than $1 Trillion -- the day Ronald Reagan took office to ALMOST $10 TRILLION!!! The Debt has increased more than TEN TIMES what it was when Ronald Reagan promised to reduce the National Debt by 1983! We and our children and their children will be paying off the debt added by Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush for the next 100 years and more! For what !?!? Services have been cut across America. Police and Fire Departments haven't grown nearly as fast as our population. Even the number of troops in the military has been cut while military spending has skyrocketed!"
    Increases in the National Debt Chart
    Our Debt went up 1.55 trillion under Clinton so what is your point? Debt has gone up 4.4 trillion under Obama in three years.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    *Buuuuuuuuzzzzzzz* Wrong! Please read this:



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    A better source than your last one, and while I could pull from multiple sources to contradict yours, I 'll use the Conservative Forbes:

    It’s a mainstay of conservative orthodoxy that tax cuts create jobs. In fact, the complexity of the tax code does create jobs for high-priced tax attorneys and accountants. But do tax cuts create “real” jobs?

    The answer appears to be no for companies big and small. After all, U.S. public companies pay well-below the official 35% tax rate while 13.5 million American workers search unsuccessfully for jobs And start ups tell me that tax cuts don’t affect whether they’ll create new jobs. In short, the tax cut rhetoric, while effective politics, is lousy economics.

    Do Tax Cuts Create Jobs? - Forbes

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Could it have anything to do with the income has been earned by the companies and they get to keep more of what they already earned? You seem to believe it is the government's money that goes to companies in subsidies.
    You may not know this, but workers earn their income as well. And business is rarely run by one person. Any corporation is only as good as those who actually do the work. Both need each other.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A better source than your last one, and while I could pull from multiple sources to contradict yours, I 'll use the Conservative Forbes:

    It’s a mainstay of conservative orthodoxy that tax cuts create jobs. In fact, the complexity of the tax code does create jobs for high-priced tax attorneys and accountants. But do tax cuts create “real” jobs?

    The answer appears to be no for companies big and small. After all, U.S. public companies pay well-below the official 35% tax rate while 13.5 million American workers search unsuccessfully for jobs And start ups tell me that tax cuts don’t affect whether they’ll create new jobs. In short, the tax cut rhetoric, while effective politics, is lousy economics.

    Do Tax Cuts Create Jobs? - Forbes
    Here we go again, another liberal that doesn't understand the role of economic growth on job creation. Why is it everything always remains the same in the liberal world regardless of economic policy. Do you think that cutting taxes during the Reagan years had no impact on the doubling of GDP and creation of 17 million jobs?

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You may not know this, but workers earn their income as well. And business is rarely run by one person. Any corporation is only as good as those who actually do the work. Both need each other.
    Workers have a job because of companies and if the company doesn't make money there are no jobs for workers. We are seeing a lot of that today especially the small companies.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Workers have a job because of companies and if the company doesn't make money there are no jobs for workers. We are seeing a lot of that today especially the small companies.
    And if there are no workers, the job won't get done. And if workers don't make any money, there won't be anyone to buy the products, and there will be no business. As I said, both need each other.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let me know how Congressional approval affects your or my approval of your Congressional Representative. Since Congressional elections are local what purpose does it serve to have Congressional approval ratings. I cannot vote for your Representative and you cannot vote for mine so why does it matter what you think of mine?
    So you are not worried that Congress has the lowest approval rating in the last 34 years. You would only worry if people think their own representative did not deserve reelection?

    Take a gander at this then: "* only 33% of voters say their own representative deserves to be re-elected.

    "This last number is particularly important because it has often been the case that Americans disapprove of Congress as a whole but think their particular representative is doing a good job."

    Uncharted Territory in Congressional Disapproval: The Importance of the “My Representative” Question
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    Re: Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Here we go again, another liberal that doesn't understand the role of economic growth on job creation. Why is it everything always remains the same in the liberal world regardless of economic policy. Do you think that cutting taxes during the Reagan years had no impact on the doubling of GDP and creation of 17 million jobs?
    Well, I suppose that is an easier approach than to address Forbes. They are conservative, and this is in their feild of expertise. But, we know your pattern, now don't we.


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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